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by Excaliber
Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Spotted a Guy Carrying
Replies: 54
Views: 7484

Re: Spotted a Guy Carrying

gigag04 wrote:I was riding harleys this past weekend with the future step dad in law, and despite my multiple layers for warmth, I got off for a break and saw my jacket was riding OVER the grip of my pistol. Nice.

Just what I need is a biker with a gun response from LE.
Parka length (as opposed to short waist length) jackets reduce this risk considerably. They come down to about where a suit jacket would, and will easily cover even OWB holsters.

I don't know if that solution would work on the bike, but it works very well in other circumstances.
by Excaliber
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Spotted a Guy Carrying
Replies: 54
Views: 7484

Re: Spotted a Guy Carrying

I have two brief observations on this often discussed topic:

1) If you happen to see a gun someone else is wearing being exposed in an apparently accidental manner, if it's in a holster, he / she is very likely a good guy / gal of one type or another (LEO, CHL, etc.). If it's not, there's about a 95% chance you're looking at a bad guy.

Reason: Good guys carry guns in holsters because that carry method is more comfortable and secure. Bad guys carry without holsters because they want to be able to ditch the gun without any indication that they had been carrying one. Cops know this. It's a fairly reliable rule of thumb.

Yes, I know some cops and CHL holders carry without a holster. Such folks have a much higher tolerance for unnecessary risk than I do. Other than for LEO's who have to carry this way to fit their undercover roles, I think holsterless carry is a really bad idea. Besides being uncomfortable and insecure, it carries the unwritten presumption of bad guy until proven otherwise in the eyes of any LEO you may encounter. This can most certainly affect interactions with LEO's if that manner of carry is observed.

2) Abbreviated "slide style" holsters that use the smallest possible amount of material to hold the gun in place and leave some or all of the barrel exposed carry an increased risk of unintended exposure. If the covering garment rides up a bit, what's exposed is clearly a gun instead of just holster material which could be part of a belt rig for tools, phones, or any number of things. Around the ranch it's fine, but I think it's a bad idea out in public where it reduces the margin for error. Although they're comfortable and inexpensive, I don't own any for that reason.

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