I did the same thing for years too before there were resources like this Forum, as did virtually all the officers I knew. I was quite surprised when I learned of the issues it could cause.karder wrote:I was unaware of that. Thank you for the info. I have been doing this since I started shooting as a teenager, but I will cease the practice.Excaliber wrote:That practice is what creates a risk of extractor failure.karder wrote:Sorry. You are right, upon rereading it, I did a poor job explaining. I lock the slide back, insert a round, release the slide and allow it to return to it's normal position, using my left hand to control it's return. Then I insert the magazine.
The extractor is designed to have the cartridge rim ride up from under it as the cartridge is fed from the magazine. Dropping a round into the chamber and letting the slide close forces the nose of the extractor to ride over the rim of the cartridge, which it will do, but it places more strain on the part than it's designed for.
The correct operational sequence is to lock the slide open, insert a loaded magazine, and release the slide to close under the full force of the recoil spring. The magazine is then removed, topped off with another round, and reinserted in the gun.
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- Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:59 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: How many rounds?
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- Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:09 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: How many rounds?
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That practice is what creates a risk of extractor failure.karder wrote:Sorry. You are right, upon rereading it, I did a poor job explaining. I lock the slide back, insert a round, release the slide and allow it to return to it's normal position, using my left hand to control it's return. Then I insert the magazine.
The extractor is designed to have the cartridge rim ride up from under it as the cartridge is fed from the magazine. Dropping a round into the chamber and letting the slide close forces the nose of the extractor to ride over the rim of the cartridge, which it will do, but it places more strain on the part than it's designed for.
The correct operational sequence is to lock the slide open, insert a loaded magazine, and release the slide to close under the full force of the recoil spring. The magazine is then removed, topped off with another round, and reinserted in the gun.
- Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:56 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: How many rounds?
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If I understand what you're describing correctly, that practice is really hard on your extractor and may lead to premature failure of that part. The one in the pipe should be loaded from the magazine as designed. Then the magazine should be removed, topped off with another round, and reinserted.karder wrote:I always carry one in pipe. I never really thought about not doing it. On the weekends I carry my Colt Commander. I lock the slide and load one round manually and then insert a full loaded magazine. Then I carry two spare 7 round magazines in Fobus paddle style magazine holders. This is my go to church and the supermarket rig.
Monday through friday, or if I am going near the border (my house is 2.8 miles from the border, so for me going near is basically to the edge) I carry my FN FiveseveN. 20+1 and three spare mags for 80+1. For my BUG I carry a Ruger LCR with 5 .38 cal shots in an SOB holster. I call this my "gimme your wallet" rig. So all totaled I have 86 rounds on my person most days not counting my truck gun. Of course, the way things are getting around here the odds of getting mowed down by Ak-47 fire and never even getting the chance to draw seems to be increasing.
- Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:56 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: How many rounds?
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Re: How many rounds?
The ankle is a comfortable place to keep spare magazines. One example of such a rig is this one from DeSantis.Teamless wrote:12+1
I have not gotten into the habit of carrying an extra magazine, as there just does not seem the right spot for it in my jeans pockets.
I may start, once I start carrying my XD9sc, putting an extra magazine in the car, so 16+1 + 10 (or 12), whatever the smaller magazine holds, but I still would only have on my person, if I was not in my car, 16+1
Ankle carried magazines are somewhat slower to bring into action than ones carried on the belt or in a pocket, but lots faster than the ones you left at home.