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by DParker
Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:42 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Gas station employee fired for resisting robber
Replies: 21
Views: 3838

Re: Gas station employee fired for resisting robber

seamusTX wrote:I don't know. Based only on this story, I don't have enough information.

Maybe the woman clerk was resisting the robber, even though she was not supposed to. Maybe the robber just pushed her away from the cash register. I don't know if Mr. Beverly was in a position to be sure that the robber did not have a knife or handgun, which could have resulted in the other clerk being stabbed or shot.
OK. Then I guess we'll just regard your "IOW, he acted before fully evaluating the situation" conclusion as something of a mystery.
The only point I have been trying to make is that this situation is not as simple as a big, bad, heartless company unfairly firing a hero (though they probably are big, bad, and heartless ;-) ).
Well, like I said...no disagreement there.
by DParker
Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:09 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Gas station employee fired for resisting robber
Replies: 21
Views: 3838

Re: Gas station employee fired for resisting robber

seamusTX wrote:I have no way of knowing what the company policy on employees being assaulted is. I'll bet it doesn't recommend intervening, though.
Likely not. But I'd bet it doesn't prohibit intervention either.
The story says that the robber was not attacking the woman cashier. Mr. Beverly thought she was. IOW, he acted before fully evaluating the situation.
I don't think that's either fair or accurate. The story tells us that she screamed, and that "The security tape showed the female co-worker struggling with the robber over the cash-register drawer."

So there was a scream and a physical altercation taking place. Now I'm not sure what you mean by "fully evaluating" the situation, but it sounds like he had reasonable grounds for drawing a conclusion in the heat of the moment that she was being assaulted. How much time should he have taken before acting? Should he have given up the advantage of surprise by announcing his presence and asking what was going on?
I'll rephrase what I wrote earlier: This firing sounds like bureaucratic excess; but it's what we get in a world where lawyers and risk-averse executives make the rules, and employees are expendable.
A conclusion with which I've already agreed.
by DParker
Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:38 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Gas station employee fired for resisting robber
Replies: 21
Views: 3838

Re: Gas station employee fired for resisting robber

seamusTX wrote:I'm going to play the devil's advocate for the purpose of discussion.

A retail business has three alternatives:
  • Hire armed guards.
  • Arm their employees and train them appropriately.
  • Tell the employees to give robbers whatever they want.
The first two routes are expensive. If they arm regular employees, they need to pay them more than the minimum wage that they probably get now, because those employees will be better qualified. The company also runs a risk of an employee being killed or injuring an innocent party, who could then sue the company.

If they give the robber the contents of the cash register and a couple of cartons of cigarettes, the company is out a few hundred dollars at most. It's just the cost of doing business for them.

I'm 100% for armed and properly trained resistance by anyone, but for a woman to fight a male robber with her bare hands (which it sounds like happened here) is poor tactics.
All quite correct. However, the employee who lost his job did not escalate the situation by attempting to resist the robbery. He walked into a situation that was already escalated and that appeared to him to be an assault on a co-worker. He wasn't resisting a robbery. He was (in his belief) attempting to prevent an assault. I wonder what the company manual says about standing by while a female co-worker is assaulted.

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