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mr surveyor wrote: what was the "severe problem"?

light strikes on 50-75% of rounds loaded.

In my case, the only CONSISTENT problem I have had with my CW9 is the low-percentage light strikes on WWB ammo. I did have a severe problem that they repaired. But it fits my hand great, I shoot it on target extremely well, and it conceals and carries very easily. To me the Kahr P9/CW9/K9 pistol format is nearly ideal in terms of fit, concealment and shootability (enough fingers on the grip). Almost all of the other "contenders" are almost identical size-wise as the Kahrs but lack grip length to get all of your fingers on the grip (KT, Walther).

Here's hoping Kahr will fix it right this time.

I should note that my severe problem with my Kahr happened after the 350 round mark.

It seems that I am right back where I started on all of this. My choices are to either keep my Kahr or replace it with another Kahr, downgrade to a Kel-Tec PF9 or similar (Sccy? altho I think it's double-stack... a Kel-Tec P11 copy basically, right?), or "upgrade" to a Walther PPS. But really these are the players in the no-safety, DAO, single-stack compact 9mm market.

We'll see if Kahr can come through on my CW9. It's back at the mother ship for the 2nd time right now. Crossing my fingers.

wilder wrote:If you like everything about the Kahr except the reliability or your particular gun, consider trading up to a PM9. I could certainly understand if you feel burned by them, but the PM9 is a nicer version of what you already have and seems to have a good service record. The PF9 and PPS that you've identified are really the only other options I'm aware of that meet your criteria.

The P9 is the upgrade path from a CW9, although nothing about the reliability problem is upgraded in a P9. The entire frame is identical on a P9 and a CW9. The guide rod is stainless on a P9, blued on a CW. The barrel is different, but only in the rifling. Most of the differences are in the milling on the slide and the barrel rifling.

Kahr is working really hard to try and fix my issues, but I am not sure I want to drop another 300 rounds on a Kahr 9mm in order to determine, again, that it is unreliable.

TTUchris wrote:What's wrong with your Kahr? I have a CW9 and I love it. Granted, I've only put a couple hundred rounds through it, but so far I'm very satisfied. How has their service been? I'm guessing less than stellar if you're looking elsewhere.

Not sure what's wrong with it. Long list of things, maybe? This will be the second trip back to Kahr for repairs. I am not holding out much hope.

I really like the gun. The worst of the problems (bad 75% light strikes) didn't crop up until the 300+ round marker. I hope Kahr can make it right, but I would like to explore my options for an alternate weapon.

OverEasy wrote:Well, gee, I'm sorry I tried to help. You can bet I won't let it happen again!
Regards, OE

sheesh.

Wasn't just you, OE. most of the suggestions here are for midsize double-stack pistols that are over 1" thick. At least your suggestion was a single-stack :)

OverEasy wrote:SIG P239. I think they can be made DAO with just a hammer change. Weighs more than the plastic ones, but that is a plus when shooting.

Nevermind. Can I delete this thread?

Sig P239 is 1.2" thick, same thickness as a typical double-stack... Kahr 9mms are over 1/4" thinner.

FL450 wrote:At 3.9 " the Sig P 250 barral is a little longer than you spec. My wife has small hands and even with a double stack the small grip frame on the P250 fits small hands well.

This isn't a "small hands" issue. It is an ease of concealment issue. Double-stack need not apply.

android wrote:Rohrbaugh R9 9mm

yeah... that's a bit small... looking for something more like regular "compact" dimensions, more than one finger on the grip, etc.

and

What about the H&K P2000 SK? Thought it is a bit thick at 1.25" and expensive!

again... double-stack >1" thick pistol, I already have one of those.

DoubleJ wrote:what'd you do to your holster?

Dunno. It is cracked. I have carried it almost daily for nearly a year, just noticed the crack in the Kydex on the outside of the holster, about 1/2" behind the belt clip, about a 2" long crack originating from the top edge. It's a FIST K3, BTW. I certainly expected it to last more than a year. I emailed FIST to see if they want to give me a discount on a replacement, etc. It is a super-comfortable holster with awesome fit and retention but the durability is not impressing me so far.

Guess it's time to lose a coupla lb. to free up that extra space in the waistband to fit the SW9VE + Crossbreed.

Sending my Kahr back for the third warranty repair in a year, and also breaking the holster that fits it has put me in the mood to reconsider my choice of carry pistol.

Anyone want to suggest some alternatives that fit the basic template of the CW9/P9?

that is, DAO, no manual safety, single-stack, under 1" thick, 3.5" barrel 9mms... Not necessarily polymer, but light weight is a plus. Also, full grip is a plus.

So I know the Kel-Tec PF9 and Walther PPS are the obvious alternatives, with the PF9 being somewhat cheaper and the PPS somewhat more expensive. I am ruling out the Taurus Slim because I want a gun that is designed from the get-go without a manual safety. double-stack pistols are out due to thickness (G26 etc.).

What have I overlooked?