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by mr.72
Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Rights of Employers OUTSIDE of company 'premises'
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Re: Rights of Employers OUTSIDE of company 'premises'

The problem with this, as it relates to company policies against carrying firearms, is that the carrying of firearms is a political and emotional issue, perhaps far more than it is a safety, security, or legal issue for some companies. So once you begin asking about carrying a gun or an exception to the policy, you risk being labeled as a "nut" and you might as well just carry and get caught. If they are seriously going to fire a good employee because they carried a gun when there was no harm done by the carrying of the gun, then they are going to probably find a reason to fire that same employee just for asking about carrying a gun, because they are placing their value on the emotional issue of "no guns" above the value of the employee's service to the company.

On the other hand, something like wireless network access is not exactly seen as some emotional issue. If you ask about wireless access, you are not a "nut". You are simply informed of the policy.

At my former employer, there was a clear "no guns" policy. We were required to read the code of business conduct each year and sign a statement of agreement, and this document contained this policy. It also contained a strict "no alcohol" policy as well, but there was beer in the refrigerator every time I opened it for the entire 12.5 years I worked there and of course they had beer and wine available at company parties (most recently I remember the "Thanksgiving Social"), so obviously they didn't really intend to fire everyone who brought or consumed alcohol on the premises. They only intended to fire you for this purpose if you showed up drunk and did some other stupid thing (it happened...). Likewise I figure if you carry a gun to work there they will not fire you even if they knew about it, but if you did something stupid with it such as show it to a coworker, threaten someone with it, lose track of it and allow it to fall into someone else's hands, or of course actually shoot it at the office, then you would be fired (and likely also arrested).

So I kind of think these policies may frequently be mostly for when someone does something stupid and winds up causing harm to another person or their property then they have a policy to cover it.

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