That's interesting. There's a lot to think about.
Just to clarify a little bit more, I really think I prefer the "sporter" stock arrangement of the Saiga over a regular AK with a pistol grip. I am interested in knowing about the benefit of a pistol grip. Also, I kind of want my girls to go out and shoot with me, so the reduced recoil of .223/5.56 might be a difference maker.
If I understand correctly (and that's a BIG "if"), then the 7.62x39 is similar to a .30-.30 ... I hate shooting my dad's .30-.30 because of the excessive recoil. I get about four shots and I'm done for the day. If a 7.62 AK is anything like that, then I am definitely going with 5.56.
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More questions from the rifle owner wannabe
I really appreciate you guys advising me on the previous thread about which rifle to buy for my first rifle. I am still sort of on the fence but now come up with all kinds of additional questions. But now this is questions on rifle #2.
The question of which .22LR to buy was kind of easy. Everyone said the same thing. Ruger 10-22. No problem. It's on my list.
For the budget of $300-500, I am looking at these three...
1. Kel-Tec SU-16B - under $500, a lot to like
2. Saiga .223 - $300, better on the budget than the SU-16B, but ???
3. Saiga 7.62x39
So my questions are thus:
- does anyone care to discuss the relative merits of the Kel-Tec SU16B vs. a Saiga .223 rifle? What I really like about the Kel-Tec is the light weight, foldability, compact transport and storage, cheap AR magazines, and of course Kel-Tec has an excellent service and warranty reputation. According to Kel-Tec, the SU-16 is a 5.56 NATO chambering, and I think the Saiga probably is .223 only. The Saiga on the other hand uses much more expensive magazines and lacks a lot of the compact/portability features of the Kel-Tec, however it is a more traditional, tried-and-true design (AK), and just over half the price.
- If I decided on a Saiga, what are the merits of .223 vs. 7.62x39? I understand the basics of the ballistic differences but what's the difference in real-world application? Is the 7.62 ammo cheaper in the same quality? Is 7.62x39 ammo as commonly available (like, at Wal Mart) as .223?
So I guess it comes down to, .223 or 7.62x39? And if .223, then Kel-Tec or Saiga?
At the moment I am still leaning heavily in favor of the SU16B.
The question of which .22LR to buy was kind of easy. Everyone said the same thing. Ruger 10-22. No problem. It's on my list.
For the budget of $300-500, I am looking at these three...
1. Kel-Tec SU-16B - under $500, a lot to like
2. Saiga .223 - $300, better on the budget than the SU-16B, but ???
3. Saiga 7.62x39
So my questions are thus:
- does anyone care to discuss the relative merits of the Kel-Tec SU16B vs. a Saiga .223 rifle? What I really like about the Kel-Tec is the light weight, foldability, compact transport and storage, cheap AR magazines, and of course Kel-Tec has an excellent service and warranty reputation. According to Kel-Tec, the SU-16 is a 5.56 NATO chambering, and I think the Saiga probably is .223 only. The Saiga on the other hand uses much more expensive magazines and lacks a lot of the compact/portability features of the Kel-Tec, however it is a more traditional, tried-and-true design (AK), and just over half the price.
- If I decided on a Saiga, what are the merits of .223 vs. 7.62x39? I understand the basics of the ballistic differences but what's the difference in real-world application? Is the 7.62 ammo cheaper in the same quality? Is 7.62x39 ammo as commonly available (like, at Wal Mart) as .223?
So I guess it comes down to, .223 or 7.62x39? And if .223, then Kel-Tec or Saiga?
At the moment I am still leaning heavily in favor of the SU16B.