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Paladin wrote:This write up shows one of the shortcommings of HydraShok. It will not expand reliably after going thru denim.

http://www.firearmstactical.com/test_da ... hs-g30.htm

Does the Winchester SXT load expand after penetrating heavy clothing?

Academy in League City had them at $14.86 for 20. Prodefense, the cop shop on I-45 just south of NASA 1, had them at $23.95 for 50. I bought two boxes from the cop shop. Eventually, I'll order more from CTD at $18.97 per box of 50 if you join their buyer's club, assuming the shipping is reasonable.

Prodefense had the Winchester Ranger loads, but will sell them only to law enforcement. The salesman did inform me that I could buy them at gun shows, but Prodefense has an agreement with the manufacturer to sell them only to police.

I picked the 230 gr Federal HydraShok round because the latest Marshall & Sanow book rates it a 96% stopper, i.e., one shot stops in 166 out of 173 shootings. Some people attack Marshall's methodology, but they tend to be jello shooters. To my knowledge, no one has ever needed to use a forty-five to repel the attack of a block of gelatin.

Unfortunately, I've whiled away the afternoon running errands, and won't be able to get out to the range today.

Just had a ramp and throat job done on my old .45 by Vanden Berg Custom. Now I need to put some hollow points through it to make sure it works. (I'm sure it will, but it's probably a good idea to test before I bet my life on it.) I was planning to use Federal 230gr HydraShok as my defense load. Cheaper Than Dirt has it for $20 per box, plus shipping and tax, of course. Does anybody know where I can get it locally and at what price?

Duh! Forgot to say that I'm in Clear Lake.