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Ok. I just asked several recent veterans.army/navy and an older usmc veteran . 3 army veterans said they had no sidearm. 1 who is my cousin did but he was a non com e8 master sergeant when he left. 1 is current non com in navy e6 and or po1. He is navy special warfare eod and I know at one point he was issued an m9 but he cant really talk about all the specifics. I know he gets deployed with seals and went through much of the same training.Needless to say he has a ton of training. The usmc vet was around before the m9 and never saw combat but trained with a 1911. Needless to say not all are issued sidearms.

Both of them said the only time someone used an m9 was when there rifle or shotgun malfunctioned. One even described the M9 as useful as a door stop!

My cousin and renewel instructor are both recent combat vets. After what they told me It pretty much confirmed 9mm ball as ineffective. All ball ammo pretty much can penetrate enough. When using non expanding bullets it is hard to argue against the 45acp. It worked in ww2- Vietnam. Time to go back to the basics Imo.