Thanks everyone!
I totally agree with everything said. This guy totally thinks he is an only one. Two questions though...
1) What are the laws regarding off duty officers and concealed carry? Do they need a CHL and are they bound by CHL laws? Are they allowed to brandish like he did last night just because he is a LEO? As an off duty officer does he have to comply with a posted 30.06?
2) Does anyone have any stats concerning CHL carriers being shot because they were mistaken by the police to be the threat? Any good sites for CHL statistics?
The funny thing is he stated himself that because we are in a rural area outside of the city that it would take a while for the police to show up. And like everyone was saying...there would be no active shooter by the time the LEOs got there.
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- Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:40 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Church is considering posting 30.06
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- Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:52 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Church is considering posting 30.06
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Church is considering posting 30.06
So our church is getting serious on security (as it should be). We have actually just put together a security team. We also have an officer who works in the sherrif's department that is a new member of our church. They asked him to have a meeting tonight to discuss some security risks, ideas, etc.
First thing I noticed about him when he walked to the front to start talking was that he was printing badly.
The meeting was going good. Talking about fire extinguishers, evac. plans, locking doors, etc. Somewhere in the middle, he said that he looked like a normal guy. Till I and a few others called him on printing. So he pulled up his shirt and revealed his pistol. Meeting continued...
Then at the very end he said that we should also consider not allowing people to carry concealed, meaning people with CHLs. He said that if the cops show up for an active shooter situation and you have a gun in your hand then they will shoot you. He also said that the avg CHL holder qualifies once. SWAT team qualifies twice a month or something like that.
In the end, he does not get to make the decision on whether or not the church posts 30.06 or not. But he has already gave his opinion on the mater to the security team and Im sure the pastor as well.
I want to talk to the pastor about my opinion on CHLers. How do you advise I do so? What statistics are there? Has any CHLer ever been shot by police thinking he was the bad guy? How many CHLers have stopped an active shooter in church?
I know this is the church God wants me at. And if it comes down to it I would have to say that I would obey a 30.06 is posted and would not leave the church over it. But I want to make my voice be heard before that happens. Any advice would be much appreciated!
Thank you!
First thing I noticed about him when he walked to the front to start talking was that he was printing badly.
The meeting was going good. Talking about fire extinguishers, evac. plans, locking doors, etc. Somewhere in the middle, he said that he looked like a normal guy. Till I and a few others called him on printing. So he pulled up his shirt and revealed his pistol. Meeting continued...
Then at the very end he said that we should also consider not allowing people to carry concealed, meaning people with CHLs. He said that if the cops show up for an active shooter situation and you have a gun in your hand then they will shoot you. He also said that the avg CHL holder qualifies once. SWAT team qualifies twice a month or something like that.
In the end, he does not get to make the decision on whether or not the church posts 30.06 or not. But he has already gave his opinion on the mater to the security team and Im sure the pastor as well.
I want to talk to the pastor about my opinion on CHLers. How do you advise I do so? What statistics are there? Has any CHLer ever been shot by police thinking he was the bad guy? How many CHLers have stopped an active shooter in church?
I know this is the church God wants me at. And if it comes down to it I would have to say that I would obey a 30.06 is posted and would not leave the church over it. But I want to make my voice be heard before that happens. Any advice would be much appreciated!
Thank you!