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by KaiserB
Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:20 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Fire Marshal making up "laws"
Replies: 123
Views: 25089

Re: Collin County Fire Marshal making up "laws"

anygunanywhere wrote:
KaiserB wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:Got warrant??

No??

Leave. You are trespassing.

Anygunanywhere

You may want to read up on the applicable laws since Fire Marshals, Code Enforcement, Game Wardens etc. do not require a warrant to enter your property ...
That may be the law, but that still is in violation of the Fourth Amendment. Remember just because a court says it is right that does not make it so.

Barrycare is also declared legal/constitutional by justice roberts. Do you agree?

If it was my property that is what I would tell them. They would have to press the issue and either cite me or arrest me. If you let your liberty and rights get trampled on and do nothing to defend your position then you cannot complain.

Anygunanywhere
Agreement is irrelevant as Facts are stubborn things...

U.S. Supreme Court
Camara v. Municipal Court, 387 U.S. 523 (1967)
Camara v. Municipal Court of the City and County of San Francisco
No. 92
Argued February 15, 1967
Decided June 5, 1967

But I would imagine in the world of hypotheticals on this forum, the Constitutional decision (Article 2) handed down by the SCOTUS would be irrelevant as it applied to your 4th amendment argument. Unqualified statements of opinion about the law do not in any way change the law.
by KaiserB
Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:05 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Fire Marshal making up "laws"
Replies: 123
Views: 25089

Re: Collin County Fire Marshal making up "laws"

anygunanywhere wrote:Got warrant??

No??

Leave. You are trespassing.

Anygunanywhere

You may want to read up on the applicable laws since Fire Marshals, Code Enforcement, Game Wardens etc. do not require a warrant to enter your property ...
by KaiserB
Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:17 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Fire Marshal making up "laws"
Replies: 123
Views: 25089

Re: Collin County Fire Marshal making up "laws"

Jumping Frog wrote:Ask him to cite the statute or regulation he believes applies.

I can't begin to tell you how many times I've seen people protest that something pertaining to firearms was forbidden because "it's against the law!" However, when pressed to cite the applicable statute or regulation, you get the gaping fish-mouth syndrome.
You are right on the money with your comment. I have had several people tell me "You can not do that it is illegal" to which my standard response is "Really, what law are you referring to (i.e. making them provide the TX PC, AC, or GC chapter)."

The one I hear most often is "You can not Concealed Carry in a church it is against the law" Asking them for a reference I usually get
GC §46.035 Unlawful Carrying of Handgun by License Holder
(b)—(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship.

However if the person keeps reading they find this later in the chapter:
GC §46.035 Unlawful Carrying of Handgun by License Holder
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

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