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parabelum wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:05 pm

Rafe wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:39 pm

mrvmax wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:31 pm Look at the scientists who do research on biological weapons or even things they do not want to contract. Do they only wear these face masks for protection or are they in totally encapsulated suits using decon procedures, supplied air or respirators?

If you want something odd to wear to the grocery store--and something that would seem to provide pretty good concealment--these things are really and truly for sale...$129. Their other $99 model is sold out.

I love it, I may got one. Looks pretty cool for carry rotation. Along with CCW Badge.

Deitz83 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:27 pm My cousin just told her husband has Covid. He went to see a friend that was leaving for Saudi. He drove from Texas , through Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. On the way home he called and said, he was not feeling well. He had a dry cough and now all of systoms of the disease. He is a former Marine, in his early 60s and has under lying health issues. My cousin is a nurse practitioner for the Texas prison system. She moved to her sister's home as her husband recovers. She said, someone needed to take of his mother and the dogs, if things go south for him. I still wonder why are people wearing seat belts, putting kids in car seats; then complain about a mask.

gtolbert09 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:07 pm Montgomery County sheriff joins Denton County sheriff in not enforcing the mask requirement.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/neighb ... 386254.php

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:53 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:55 pm

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:19 pm

mayor wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:57 pm

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:44 pm ...To be honest, my gravest concern with masks is not the mask itself but the next set of executive orders. Multiple "experts" including Dr. Fauci have already hinted at those - mandatory vaccinations, mandatory carrying of vaccination certificates and mandatory chip implants to certify vaccination. With as rapidly as we got from multiple experts - Fauci, Surgeon General, etc. saying masks are ineffective to mandatory financially punished mask wearing, I'm concerned that we could go those extra steps before everyone realizes what has happened.

It's just a chip to ensure that you had your vaccine. This prevents tampering and if you want to go into any building - you know, grocery store, department store, restaurant, hardware store, Dr. office - you have to have the chip AND you can drop the mask.

Please share a link to a valid reference where this was stated... Facebook memes do not count.

I have not heard about the chip thing but it would not surprise me one bit to see them pull that and many of the sheep would fall right in line. Based on how I have witnessed the sheep falling in line so far. But there are many studies showing masks don't help at all. Just utilizing some common sense, of which there seems very little of in America these days, I find it a bit odd that most people did not wear masks during the first 3-4 months of this thing while filling grocery stores, hardware stores and other "permitted" places. That did not create a spike, now did it? I suppose the virus is a smart virus and does not spread in "government approved" locations. If masks were the reason or even part of the reason for a spike, it would have already happened. The reason for the "spike" is that there is now testing going on. The whole mask thing is nothing more than pandering, IMHO. This virus is not going away. Not until herd immunity is achieved. Standard masks do nothing to stop the spread. If it gives you some security in your moment of irrational fear, great, go for it. This virus is no more deadly than the flu. The reduced death rates are quickly proving this.

Here is a link to just one study showing masks are not going to stop a virus. There are hundreds if a person isn't already convinced the deep state is their keeper. You just have to find them before the deep state works to delete them from being available or pulls some kind of behind the scenes garbage to keep their own agenda going.
https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/mas ... ial-policy

Masks Don’t Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy

I don't have the time, nor the desire, to review that study in detail enough to review all of the references as well to make sure they say what the author is claiming they say. I believe this is the same report that was posted on another forum and several of the cited studies in the report did not support the author's position.

I didn't see people filling grocery stores in my area... I saw curbside pick up and delivery service skyrocket though. We kicked off summer gatherings, opened bars, and had protests and now we see the spike. That makes sense to me. Like I said in a previous post, a few weeks ago, I didn't know anyone who had it and now I know several that have either tested positive or are showing symptoms.

One thing I did see just a few minutes ago though that has me questioning is that the CDC is pushing to have "probable" cases included in the counts. I'm not going to post the link because it is Alex Jones Info Wars, but his info is from a Collin County meeting. I would like to see that whole meeting for context because if they are counting probable cases that are not confirmed, then they can control the numbers and make it look better or worse. Too bad we have come to the point where we can't trust anything reported anymore.

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:19 pm

mayor wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:57 pm

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:44 pm ...To be honest, my gravest concern with masks is not the mask itself but the next set of executive orders. Multiple "experts" including Dr. Fauci have already hinted at those - mandatory vaccinations, mandatory carrying of vaccination certificates and mandatory chip implants to certify vaccination. With as rapidly as we got from multiple experts - Fauci, Surgeon General, etc. saying masks are ineffective to mandatory financially punished mask wearing, I'm concerned that we could go those extra steps before everyone realizes what has happened.

It's just a chip to ensure that you had your vaccine. This prevents tampering and if you want to go into any building - you know, grocery store, department store, restaurant, hardware store, Dr. office - you have to have the chip AND you can drop the mask.

Please share a link to a valid reference where this was stated... Facebook memes do not count.

Masks Don’t Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:43 am

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:02 am We were told that the purpose of the restrictions was to flatten the curve, to avoid overwhelming the hospitals. OK, we did that. Now, I'm not sure what the goal is. No new cases? I'm not sure what the goal of the restrictions could be. I'm not aware of a single place where the hospitals are close to being overwhelmed.

Really?

https://www.khou.com/article/news/healt ... d4c5f98457

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoy ... d2eedd7a55

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... li=BBnb7Kz

The face covering mandate seems sensible to me. We are seeing numbers of hospitalizations that are much higher (6 to 7x) than they were when the economy was shut down. The "flatten the curve" theory was never just a few weeks and done, as you can see from the spike we now have. I'm not saying that keeping the economy shut down is the solution... Our businesses must be open and allow people to make a living. But in order for that to happen, we have to take precautions to try to control the spread of this virus. We should have been wearing masks as businesses first started opening.

Why are we seeing the spike now? Some say Memorial Day gatherings, some say protests, some say bars. I have a feeling that all of these may have contributed. My neighbor and his whole family was very active in local area protests, and he told me yesterday that they are having some symptoms. A guy that my son works with is being tested because his grandmother tested positive. Another friend of mine posted on FB that she and her daughter have tested positive... Two weeks ago, I didn't know anybody who had tested positive for this.