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TomS wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:49 pm
So, Lucky Gunner is your expert source, Charles? Really, I’m sorry you’re butthurt but I wasn’t accusing you of anything, just disagreeing during a cordial conversation. OK, sunshine?

I feel pretty certain you are not capable of making Charles feel "butthurt". You did start out implying velocity was not important for a handgun platform. Charles was simply trying to explain to you why it absolutely is. It did seem like you shifted your argument to other things, such as muzzle velocity and such.

puma guy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:59 am I don't want to initiate a different discussion here, but I overheard a sales clerk at Academy tell a woman .22 lr had as much energy as a
.38 Special. His actual words were "a .22 LR is just as powerful as a .38". After she left I asked him where he got that information; he couldn't specify.

I wish I had a dime for every occasion i over heard some clown working at Academy talking out of his hat about firearms. It is amazing the silly things they come up with at some gun counters. I have heard some pretty stupid comments from guys working at actual gun stores as well.

dlh wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:46 pm
When I purchased my Ruger LCR I had to weigh what caliber to buy--the .38 special plus p or the .357 magnum...Lots of folks complained about it being a "snappy gun" in .357 magnum so I bought it in the .38 special plus p. It is about my third backup carry gun behind my Glock 26 and my Smith and Wesson Shield M and P in 9 mm.

Whatever you carry---train--and train hard!

I made the same choice for the very same reason. TAM from this forum had made a post back then about his airweight in 357 being a beast. After reading that, I went 38 and utilize +P rounds in it for self defense.

TomS wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:03 pm You’re not getting larger permanent cavities due to velocity in handguns, only rifles. You’re only advantage is penetration depth, sometimes too much penetration as experienced by PD using 357 Sig Gold Dots going through people.

This does make sense to me and over penetration is definitely an issue. But I would have to disagree about the higher velocity not making a larger wound channel.

I have always assumed the 357 would provide more stopping power than the 9 mm. I also feel a 44 mag is even more capable. But the trade off in managing the recoil of the round also is a consideration. I have seen others post on the forum that firing that snubby in 357 magnum is hard to manage.

The extra velocity is bound to create a larger wound channel. That is the very essence of the high velocity wound channel created by the 5.56 round of a military rifle.