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mojo84 wrote:Metal detectors are no more the right answer than banning all guns. There is risk in being s free society. Education and preparedness in how best to identify and respond to situations before and as they happen is the key. Teachers trained and equipped to be more situationally aware is a better start than metal detectors.

Look how effective metal detectors are in big city schools up north. It will just give a false sense of security.

You may very well be right. I will not pretend to have all the answers. This kind of stuff is happening way to frequently. My daughter and SIL have told me they are going to get pregnant this year. At the rate this stuff is happening. Not only these senseless shootings but the drugs, the gangs, the sexual promiscuity... acceptance of teen pregnancies...on and on, make the thought of what my grandchild will be dealing with in 10 years a bit worrisome, to say the least. Maybe I will home school him or her! Since my daughter and SIL are moving towards running our business more every year, I should have time to help raise a child. I did pretty darned good raising two of them already.

Keith B wrote:I just found out the boy who was shot is the son of one of my friends-friends. He was incorrectly identified originally as a 14 year old, but is actually 11. My friend has heard no update on him at this point other than he had undergone surgery for a wound to the face and neck.

Please add a prayer for him, the young girl who was shot and their family and friends.

Oh my!!! Way too close to home. I am very sorry to read this!

The Annoyed Man wrote:..."abraham"...

Would it not be FAR better to teach firearms safety in the public schools? Children have killed children from time immemorial: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/seri ... dex_1.html. Teaching them to expect and desire a police state is not the best longterm solution.

And no, I do not propose that the murder of children by other children is acceptable. I'm only arguing that no decision about what to do about it will have been properly thought out unless we take into consideration what it teaches our children, and the impact of that on the future of our society. It isn't a simple answer.

I call a snip an abraham in honor of his request we not quote all the previous posts.

I am not sure how a firearms education class is going to keep an emotionally disturbed kid from opening fire on his classmates. This was not an AD. He meant to shoot them. I also disagree that kids walking into school and blasting their classmates was always as prevalent as it is today. To say that is a bit dismissive of a new and growing phenomenon.

So. Do any of you have any suggestions, since mine all stink?

Keith B wrote:Kid apparently took sawed off shotgun to school in a band instrument case. Trying to search every band instrument case, etc. will take more than metal detectors.

True... they would have to go through any bag or case that set off the metal detector. Including a band case. Same as we do at the airport. "Put all your metal items in this bowl please".

K.Mooneyham wrote: ...."Abraham"... So, if some 15, 16, 17 year old teenager takes a gun to school and proceeds to randomly apply said gun against his fellow teens, would it not be the better thing for an armed teacher, properly vetted and trained, to do what is necessary at that moment to conclude the situation and at least minimize the loss of life? I don't mean to be flippant or unnecessarily inflammatory, but this IS life and death we are discussing here.

I absolutely agree.There are two lines of battle here. The first, in my mind, is to start putting metal detectors in every school in America...no matter the grade level. We do it for government agencies and court houses but not our children??? The second is to have armed trained teachers or/and security personal to stop an incident as quickly as possible to minimize the carnage.


It would also help if there were some real enforcement of the gun laws that are already on the books. The libtards love making laws that force everyone to live as they feel is necessary but they have no clue on enforcing those laws. What is that all about??? More laws ain't the answer but sure as tootin, some libtard is going to attempt more laws.

nightmare wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:It seems that some of these so-called "Gun Free" safe zones are actually the least safe places to be...or am I stating the obvious?

It should be obvious to anyone with common sense but unfortunately that's not so common these days.

Yes on both accounts but a thought I had on this. Every teacher in the building could have had a gun and if this kid pulled his gun out and fired with no warning, I doubt the armed teachers would have changed anything. I am a advocate of armed teachers or at least security guards but it won't stop this kind of shooting from happening. It would go a long way towards keeping it confined to one or two students but an unexpected attack cannot usually be stopped before the bad actor gets off at least one shot. Metal detectors at the doors would have gone a long way toward preventing this. Notice I am using the word stop when talking about the incident after it has begun and prevent when discussing before the kid is able to get the gun into the school. It is a darned shame we have come to this but we are quickly learning that metal detectors at the entrances to school may one day be as common as the water fountain.

Beiruty wrote:13 an 14 year old boys with access to pistols. Do I smell gangs, or reckless parents who don't secure their firearms?!

I thought they said it was a shotgun. I suppose with the pistol grip? Reckless parents for sure. Not that it makes the shooting OK, but I would not be surprised to hear the other kids had been taunting this one.