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VMI77 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Here is an interesting perspective from a NYPD officer.

Be warned, there is some language. It is a New York cop after all.

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He says this:

Missed 12 out of fifty @ 7 yards? GOOD ENOUGH!

Wow.

Excaliber wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

EEllis wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I think a light trigger pull is only a problem if a person has not practiced enough with their weapon. But that is just my experience with it. Similar to a person moving directly from a Glock type pull to a 1911 pull. The first few rounds will probably get touched off quicker than expected.

Like any other occupation. There are those that practice with the tools of their trade and there are those who just try to get by.

The NYPD and a few other depts in NY changed to what is called the NY2 trigger which has a trigger pull of 12lbs. while the normal trigger pull for a Glock would be about 5.5lbs. Double action only. The NY1 trigger id 8lbs. just for added info.

On the New York police department, they have to do finger exercises so they can pull the trigger.

Btw... I read the link you posted. I can completely agree that a heavy trigger pull like they are using is a severe impediment to accuracy.

A bit of historical perspective may be of use here.

Until the mid to late 1980's, police sidearms were almost exclusively double action revolvers with long trigger pulls with weights of between 12 - 14 pounds.

The functionally unnecessary increased Glock trigger pull weight is unquestionably an impediment to fine trigger control. However, those who take responsibility for their own skills will practice harder to compensate.

Those who do not take responsibility for their own skills will not be materially helped by lighter triggers.

The real issues are officers who place their fingers inside the trigger guard before they're ready to shoot, and insufficient range time to maintain proficiency.

EEllis wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I think a light trigger pull is only a problem if a person has not practiced enough with their weapon. But that is just my experience with it. Similar to a person moving directly from a Glock type pull to a 1911 pull. The first few rounds will probably get touched off quicker than expected.

Like any other occupation. There are those that practice with the tools of their trade and there are those who just try to get by.

The NYPD and a few other depts in NY changed to what is called the NY2 trigger which has a trigger pull of 12lbs. while the normal trigger pull for a Glock would be about 5.5lbs. Double action only. The NY1 trigger id 8lbs. just for added info.

WildBill wrote:

A-R wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

A-R wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Yep. They are.

Is there a report saying the heavy triggers "had something to do with it" ?

I dunno is there a member here (other than you) saying that?

Like I said, it was alluded to by a couple of posters by bringing it up in this thread. I even quoted it so even you could understand what I was referencing. Now I am done playing the game with you.

Well since they were merely casually alluding to it, then seems self evident there is no report or other evidence of it being a factor other than their casual speculation.

I think that some people are getting a bit too tense and defensive. Neither the NYPD nor any other agency is not going to put into any report that states that the [relatively] heavy trigger-pull of the Glock was the cause or reason for shooting a bystander.

IMO a heavy trigger pull detracts from accuracy, but the NYPD officers use the tools that they are authorized to use.

gigag04 wrote:I asked one question about the triggers, some folks answered, and all of sudden people assume we are making excuses shooting innocents.

I used to look forward to meeting forum members whether buying or selling guns and gear, grabbing lunch, or sitting in a booth at a gun show. I'm not so certain I'd be interested in that anymore.