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anygunanywhere wrote:

jayinsat wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

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It seems to me that most of us assume everyone carrying a gun is a law abiding citizen legally able to carry. I assert that that CAN BE a dangerous assumption. It's one thing if it's some one you've have a long term relationship with but not everyone showing up to your home will be known to you. We can't control who the power company, cable company etc sends to us. Even trusted contractors can occasionally hire and send out improperly vetted workers. I welcome CHL'ees in my home but, I feel, as a contractor, you should be extra careful to make sure you never accidently reveal or be ready to answer a whole lotta questions.

Are youy a law abiding person legally able to carry?

Please take this in a non-offensive manner, but it is hard for me to tell just by your posts. You need to prove it to me before I will believe you.

Anygunanywhere

The key is that you should be wary of anyone and not necessarliy based on whether they are armed.

A handyman in your home can kill you with his phillips screwdriver or bludgeon you with his hammer.

The focus should not be on the firearm. Just because someone is armed does not mean that you are at a greater risk of them harming you.

Anygunanywhere

Absolutely correct! I would recommend only using established companies that do criminal background checks before hiring their employees. Many of these fly by night folks that hang a shingle one season and claim to be a "company" are in reality a very high risk situation!!

I feel like this situation can have many "correct" answers. For me and my employees, the situation is a bit sticky. Our company does in home repairs and installation of HVAC equipment. We are in the home based on invitation by the home owner about 99 percent of the time. The other one percent it is a rental home with a tenant. After 30 years of walking into customers homes, I can not think of any occasion where I felt my life was in danger from the occupant of the home. I know of one situation a friend and technician was threatened by a shotgun. I was not there. He was told to do the work. He completed the work and went to his van to fill out the invoice. When he went back to the door, the homeowner would not let him back in and was standing with a shotgun beside him. He was holding it up with his hand but not pointing it at Paul. Paul said he told the guy... "No charge" ... And got the heck out of there. We had no cell phones back then. He jumped on the radio and told dispatch he was down the road from the house and if Boyd(the owner), wanted his money, he could go get it. Boyd told us all that he did the right thing leaving and no matter what, it was never worth getting into a violent confrontation over money. They called the police. The police went to the home. The home owner denied having a gun. Case closed... No witnesses.

Like I said earlier and lost in some of this is the very real complications that will arise if any of us shoot someone while in said someone's home.

Then there are situations like RP described where the threat was actually while moving from our vans to the job sight. That can happen. Especially if one is working commercial HVAC.

Since this post was concerning service oriented visits, there isn't much need to get into the threats realtors and pizza delivery types face. Which I feel are probably under more risk than service type jobs. We carry no cash and the home owners are typically who we are meeting.

Wodathunkit wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:You got a CHL cumber bun?

No, but now I want one.....and maybe a beret

The beret comes with matching boots.

longtooth wrote:Anygun,
Wait til you have handed hime the check to start the conversation.

You may think you are joking but back in the day when I would run service calls, people did this to me all the time. They would start asking questions after I filled out the invoice. I always suspected it was intentional. Now I know.

LOL... pretty funny anygun!

Everyone accuses tradesmen of robbing them. Maybe mention that the gun won't be necessary, you will go along with the robbery willingly.

I agree motherbear. Many of the tool bags available today come with more pockets and compartments than a James Bond movie. I would imagine the best way to carry would be a side compartment with nothing else in it and zip up tight. I can understand how a home owner might be bothered by the sight of a handgun bouncing around lose in a tool bag.

Two issues for carrying in homes of other people to be VERY aware of. First and most important, if you do end up using your weapon against a person in their home, you are going to have a very tough time esplainin that one Lucy! Second and a very big issue for anyone doing repair work that involves sweat and summer heat. Sweat can destroy your precious carry piece. I was not thinking one day and started working on my truck in the garage. It was hot hot hot. I was sweating all over my PM9 while in its holster. We have had at least one instance of an armed person assaulting a home owner in a garage. Right after that happened, I was feeling the need to have my gun on me. I came in for a water break and pulled the gun and holster out and set it in the cabinet. I forgot about it for a day or so. It had rust all over it. Fortunately not deep rust. I was able to get it off without doing damage to the weapon. A couple more days may have been real bad.

I like the idea posted above about carrying in a tool bag. That eliminates the possibility of the weapon falling out in front of a customer or even being lost in the attic. It also takes care of the issue of sweating all over the gun.

Once more for fun. I cannot possibly stress the seriousness of the situation if you do shoot a home owner in their own home!