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by 03Lightningrocks
Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:41 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight
Replies: 64
Views: 18859

Re: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight

74novaman wrote:
Thomas wrote: Too bad the police would probably confiscate it for evidence. That, and I'm not sure I would want a gun that was probably used in other crimes.
My clown hat ( :biggrinjester: ) indicates I was joking, or at a minimum being facetious if not outright sarcastic. ;-)
Yeah... I wouldnt want a gun with a criminal background either. It might have a tendency to commit other crimes. :mrgreen:
by 03Lightningrocks
Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight
Replies: 64
Views: 18859

Re: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight

74novaman wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Just a throw in here. I don't know if he swept the barrel away or grabbed it but anyone in this situation would be well advised to grab the barrel as they keep it from pointing at them. Maintain control of the shotgun. If the perp simply holds on to the gun and steps backwards, they can still blast you before they run away. :fire
Plus if you can yank it away from the guy and then he runs off, hey! Free shotgun. :biggrinjester:
LOL... That is considered gravy. :mrgreen:
by 03Lightningrocks
Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:24 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight
Replies: 64
Views: 18859

Re: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight

Just a throw in here. I don't know if he swept the barrel away or grabbed it but anyone in this situation would be well advised to grab the barrel as they keep it from pointing at them. Maintain control of the shotgun. If the perp simply holds on to the gun and steps backwards, they can still blast you before they run away. :fire
by 03Lightningrocks
Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:05 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight
Replies: 64
Views: 18859

Re: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight

I would like to know what caliber he used... Or did I miss that somewhere?
by 03Lightningrocks
Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:47 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight
Replies: 64
Views: 18859

Re: Good Friend Got Into A Gun Fight

Jumping Frog wrote:
psijac wrote:This being a gun forum I expect to see as many self defense with gun articles as possible. What as taken me by surprise is the increase in self defense events where the perp survives. I am not sure how I feel about that
Many people assume getting shot means dying.

Actually, depending on the article, roughly 80%-85% of everyone shot in this country survives. If they are still alive when the EMT's get there and survive the transport to the ER, then the survival rate is in the 95% range. Most deaths are "dead right there", i.e., the shootee was not alive when the EMT's arrived.

That is one factor that has helped form my decision to resist with force even when the other person has me at gunpoint. I may very well get shot doing so, but if I am going down then I am going down fighting, not passively.
Yep... And one of the many reasons we are told NEVER allow a bad guy to take us to a secondary location. If they are going to shoot you, IMHO, we are better off shot in the open where people have a better chance of spotting you in distress and getting aid to you quickest.

A few years ago a guy was grabbed by two illegals in a parking lot. They wanted his money. They took him to the lake and killed him. If he had of said here is the money, but I am going nowhere with you, there is a chance the bad guys would have simply run off for fear of being seen by witnesses shooting a guy. Even if he had been shot, he would have a better survival chance with local authorities moments away rather than alone in a deserted location.

I'm with jumpingfrog... The odds are real darned good I am going to resist. If I am alone they are 100%. If My friends or loved ones are with me and resisting would put them in a higher risk situation due to my actions I would wait until forced to resist, but I still would not allow a secondary location scenario.

To doc... With all my heart... I send my best to your friend and congratulate him on his correct choices for that situation. He is obviously a very intelligent person. I am no slouch either and have what would best be described as, genius level street smarts ;-) . He really need to go into silent mode for several years on this. Say NOTHING to journelists or even friends, who might repeat or misinterpret what he says. I have been there and I would not say a word in public or to officers about any of the situation after my initial statement. Jocularity is the absolute worse thing he can indulge in! Even if he is feeling that rush one feels from winning the contest, which is very normal, he needs to act as if he feels like he was forced into the situation and was only trying to stop the attacker from taking his life. I have been there twice now and both times used this method.

Even if the grand jury decides to "no bill" on self defense grounds, a more aggressive less gun friendly DA can decide to bring the charges again, simply based on comments made by your friend. He will not like the expenses involved in defending himself from AA or AM charges. again... I speak from REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. Silence is golden!!! ;-)

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