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KD5NRH wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:HOLD A BAD GUY??? You folks kidding me??? If the situation calls for "draw", it calls for "shoot".

Inside one's home, "draw" may not be a necessary step. After all, it's perfectly legal for me to sit in the living room in my bike shorts, twirling my Blackhawk and scratching myself with the front sight, or reenacting scenes from "Enemy at the Gates" with my Mosin-Nagant.

Allow me to clarify. In public for the draw part of my statement. In your home, if the situation is anybody in MY home that is not suppose to be there, the situation calls for SHOOT! In YOUR home, you may want to make them sit on the sofa and watch you reenact enemy at the gates. That is the beauty of our country. We all have the right to make our own decisions.

Careful though, if your acting skills are bad, you might get thrown in jail for some kind of torture offense.

Purplehood wrote:

Excaliber wrote:There are no hard and fast answers here.

The simplest cases are holding a compliant suspect in place (definitely not bringing him closer to home and family), and allowing someone who is determined to flee to do so if he doesn't present a deadly threat during his actions. I'm not a proponent of using deadly force to recover property, even if that course of action is authorized by law.

One has to consider that a BG who may still be armed and / or may have accomplices nearby may use an opportunity to leave to flank the GG or otherwise reposition himself to initiate a secondary attack. This possibility can be addressed with repositioning by the GG as well, but it's something that should be kept in mind.

When I confronted a burglar in my brothers house and let him go, I didn't realize that he had 2 accomplices out front waiting in a pickup truck. Things could have got nasty.

Yeah... that could have turned south real quick if you had tried to hold the guy while waiting on the police. It might have inspired them to come in to see what was taking so long. On the other hand, I believe most of these types haven't the intestinal fortitude to "back up" their accomplices. Chances are greater that if you had of held at gun point or shot their buddy, they would have made a hasty retreat to save their own butts.

These days, with all the gang activity, in either situation one has the risk of a street gang coming back later for revenge.

There are no easy answers, IMHO. One just has to do what one feels is right, at that particular moment and make that decision quickly and decisively.

randomoutburst wrote: If I'm lucky, they'll arrive before the vandals/burglars leave and I get some entertainment, too!

rm9792 wrote:Man, I wish my Dodge got 10-12 in the city....Lucky to get 9. (gas engine)

Yeah...the new F250 diesels are even worse than mine. i have the last year made before the "gubbermint" required some kind of pollution control mess that dropped mileage to 6-8 city. My brother had a F150 that was getting 18-20 city about a year ago. that isn't bad for a full size truck. Now he has a car getting 30-35 so he is happier doing his daily one hour drive to work.

I have probably said this before, maybe even on this thread, but I can't picture myself saying "halt or I'll shoot". I may get killed one day because I don't pull a gun on someone prematurely but as god is my witness, I would never pull a weapon of mass destruction out and not at the same time pull the trigger. I guess I am saying that in my mind, if it is gun pulling time, it is a situation that my switch has already tripped into "kill or be killed". Someone who has broken into my home does not deserve the courtesy of an honorable confrontation. Out on the street, I am no cop so if I witness a crime that does not involve a BG doing physical violence on a good guy, I plan to stay holstered and be one very good(and alive) witness. It is a CHL... not a "Batman License".

PS... I would love for someone to steal my truck...LOL. If I woke up and caught a person breaking into my truck, I would stay in the house and call the cops. I can get more from the insurance company than I can sell it for. That same insurance company will pay to replace anything a theif steals and repair the damage he/she does. If the insurance company would like to send out an armed gaurd to "hold a bad guy" I will take them a cup of coffee when it is cold outside.

Anybody want to buy an F250 diesel that does about 10-12 MPG in the city...Nah... didn't think so.


HOLD A BAD GUY??? You folks kidding me??? If the situation calls for "draw", it calls for "shoot". But then again, I have never considered drawing on Mormans handing out CD's or guys wearing ski masks in the winter.

Aggie_engr wrote:......If they are of the cowardly type that drops to ground like a girl screaming don't shoot me,......

....I don't know why, but the visual makes me laugh.

seamusTX wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote: what's this??? Some kind of sideways insult????

I meant it as advice.

There are many inexpensive ways to ensure that someone breaking into your home generates a lot of noise for at least 30 seconds before getting in. For one, there's a mutt from the animal shelter that costs maybe $50 to bring home and will be eternally grateful to you.

Here's a wireless alarm system that can be installed in an apartment without drilling holes or stringing wire: http://www.guardcom.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have no experience with that system, but I have something similar.

- Jim

Oh...sorry...I took it like you were saying I was some kind of dip finkle or something. My post above was just a what if like others here. I have an alarm system that would go bananas if anyone entered my home so it would be a pretty dramatic moment as I leap from my bed and grab my handgun off the night stand, alarm siren screaming like a jet engine. If they were still in my house after all that commotion ... I would blast them out of fear.

Point is....if anyone was to be in my house....it would flip me out way past the point of saying..."halt, in the name of the law!". I don't have police training and don't feel the need to behave as an officer of the law.

seamusTX wrote:

If someone can get into your house without your advance knowledge, you really need to rethink your security measures.

- Jim[/quote]
what's this??? Some kind of sideways insult???? The question was posed at the beginning of the thread but you want to wise off about it now? What ever dude.

Thinking about this situation some more has me coming to a scary conclusion. Quite frankly it would scare the ever living crud out of me if I awoke to someone being in my house. I am not sure I would say anything before shooting. I hate to admit it, but I would be so shook up by someone breaking into my house I would probably just blast them and look around to make sure they had no accomplices. I guess none of us can be sure how we would react until the situation arises, but the whole concept is very hard to imagine.

The Annoyed Man wrote:It is inconceivable to me that a judge wouldn't throw such a suit out of court. You're in your home, minding your own business, and a burglar enters? He's darn lucky if he doesn't get shot - and if it's at night, you're well within your rights to shoot first and ask questions later. If I hold an intruder at gunpoint until the police arrive, and it is my home, I expect the police to say "job well done, we'll take it from here," and never hear about it again until I appear as a witness at the BG's trial. If not, I'll make mincemeat in the local press out of the judge, the prosecutor, and the perp.

I'm not havin' it.

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