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carlson1 wrote: The firearms I carry are also dependable. One of the situations I was in REQUIRED A BACK UP TO LIVE, so I will continue to carry one. Maybe you will never need and I hope I don't need it again, but if I do I will have it because I do not like a $700 club.

The fact that we are both here posting means we both came out of our situations still kicking . If I had ever been in a situation, like you, where a back up weapon became necessary, I would probably think differently about it than I do. I hope and pray that neither of us will ever again encounter a situation that requires such action. The odds should be in our favor, since lightning rarely strikes twice in the same place .

After the money I spent on lawyers and what not, avoidance is my first line of defense. My concealed carry piece is second to that.... .

Liberty wrote:I do a lot of road trips and spend a lot of time on the road. I like to wear one gun and keep one in the door panel. I feel my biggest exposure is getting gas. My door panel BUG is a full sized handgun.

LOL....I did the same thing when I went down to Houston a couple days after the hurricane. I was carrying 40 gallons of fuel in plastic 5 gallon cans and after watching all the stories about fuel shortages and what not, was thinking the same thing as you about filling up my tank. I realized after getting there that people were actually behaving more civil than normal and all was well with the world.

carlson1 wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:There is a fine line between being prepared and being paranoid. Denial has nothing to do with it. One more comment I will add. Posting a link to a police officer and what he does is not applicable here. the police officer is charged with apprehending the criminal. The chl holder is charged with staying alive and removing himself or herself from the situation as quickly as possible.

If you have ever been in a confrontation you might consider a greater line between prepared and paranoid. I don't consider two revolvers with 10 rounds paranoid, but I have had my confrontations and I intend to be able to stay alive.

I actually have been involved in a deadly force situation. Having more guns would not have made the situation any different. It was a quick and very decisive conclusion with no need to break out additional weapons. I carry a VERY dependable firearm. That is the reason I believe there is no need in a bug or a case of ammo when I am out on the streets.

NcongruNt wrote:
As you seem to imply that someone who goes around armed with two handguns and reloads is paranoid, I gave you the specific reasoning for why I do so. I am prepared, not paranoid. I'm not here to postulate whether or not you are paranoid. This thread was about why we should carry a BUG.

Yes and also about how we feel about the need to carry a bug. Please don't be offended by my opinion on the topic.

NcongruNt wrote:So which one am I?

I will ask you....which one am I?

There is a fine line between being prepared and being paranoid. Denial has nothing to do with it. One more comment I will add. Posting a link to a police officer and what he does is not applicable here. the police officer is charged with apprehending the criminal. The chl holder is charged with staying alive and removing himself or herself from the situation as quickly as possible.

Keith B wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:Some of you fellers act like you are living in a war zone or something. It's really not that dangerous out there. The odds of any of us being involved in a shooting would be comparable to getting struck by lightning. The odds of any of us needing 2 guns and 5000 rounds of ammo are just beyond comprehension. We aren't police officers, so it's not like we are charging into situations with criminals on a daily basis.

The main reasons I can see for a BUG is if your primary weapon malfunctions, or if the primary weapon is wrestled away for some reason.

I agree with you that the chances of a 'fire fight' are not that great and expelled round count will more than likely be low. I personally carry 6+1 on a regular basis, or 7+1 if I carry the full sized 1911. Plenty for me to hopefully get the job done or out of harms way.

I believe I remember you posting you carry a PM9, same as me. Personally, I just can't see carrying 10 lbs of self defense gear for a situation that is very unlikely to ever happen. Heck, if a person really believes they will ever be in an encounter where they need two guns, a knife, pepper spray and a tazer, why not go ahead and carry a gas mask and wear a bullet proof vest. Heck, I can't even fathom a situation where you would need to hand off weapons to family members. I bet if a situation this drastic developed, it would happen so quick, there wouldn't be time for this maneuver anyway. If I were walking the streets of Iraq I might see it different.

Realistically, if a perp has you in his grasps and has wrestled your gun from you, having a chance to go for the ankle holster or pocket pistol are even more remote than the odds of anything like this going on in the first place.

My back up weapon is staying mentally alert and reacting in a manner as to not need an arsenal of self defense weapons. I have to wonder if carrying alot of self defense weapons will make a person over confident and susceptible to mistakes over confidence can bring. Well, as the old saying goes, to each his own.

Some of you fellers act like you are living in a war zone or something. It's really not that dangerous out there. The odds of any of us being involved in a shooting would be compareable to getting struck by lightning. The odds of any of us needing 2 guns and 5000 rounds of ammo are just beyond comprehension. We aren't police officers, so it's not like we are charging into situations with criminals on a daily basis.