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AlaskanInTexas wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:46 pm I've been pulled over four times since getting my CHL. Three times the officer just handed me back the CHL and said "I don't need that." One time on a long road trip, I put the gun in my console. The officer asked me where it was at and then said that he'd recommend keeping it on my hip in the future. Never a ticket or an interaction longer than 3 minutes. I will note that the two times I was pulled over for speeding I was less than 5 over. Odd.

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:55 am I’ve only ever been pulled over twice since I moved to Texas in 2006. Neither was for the manner in which I was driving, but rather for an expired registration window-sticker the first time, and a burned out taillight the second time. Both were with Southlake PD.

I just don’t think it’s a big deal to show both my LTC and TDL when asked for ID by Texas LEOs. With the first stop, the officer looked at my (then) CHL and asked me if I was armed. I said yes, and he asked me where it was. I said left hip, OWB. He said, "tell you what…you don’t show me yours and I won’t show you mine" and handed me back the CHL.

The second time I was pulled over, I handed both licenses to the cop. He glanced at the CHL and said "I don’t need this" and handed it back to me…and that was the end of it. Both times I was issued a no-fine fix-it ticket. I think that last time was in maybe 2010.

I just tend not to drive in a manner that’s going to get me noticed. I drive a generic-looking gray SUV that doesn’t really stand out; plus I look like Santa Claus…and NOBODY wants to give a ticket to Santa Claus!

srothstein wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:36 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:29 pm What would be her probable cause for a search? Because RPBrown had a LTC and was not armed does not articulate that he was committing a crime. When I went to the academy 100 years ago we had weeks of search and seizure law. Most if the TCLOSE (TCOLE Now) test covered search and seizure.

She would not need probable cause if RPBrown consented to a search. And I know a lot of rookies who ask for consent at almost every stop. I had one I was training about 20 years ago that told me he did it because he found a lot of the time there was some small amount of drugs (usually marijuana) in the car and got got an arrest. I pointed out that by waiting for real probable cause, I may only get half the arrests that he did, but they were all people who really deserved a trip to jail.

Rookies seemed to prefer quantity over quality (and I am not exempting myself from when I was a rookie).

On a side note, I am coming out of retirement and going back on patrol soon. Things have changed a lot in the 15 years since I left law enforcement. The town I will be working in is a small town on IH-35 south of San Antonio and the major problem they are concentrating on now is smuggling - large drug shipments or illegal aliens. Now I have to learn a whole new set of cues for who to stop.