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by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:38 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Arlington man shoots burglar leaving neighbors house with items - was the shooting legal
Replies: 13
Views: 3736

Re: TX: Arlington man shoots burglar leaving neighbors house with items - was the shooting legal

OneGun wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:46 pm Joe Horn was no-billed by the grand jury. However, that is in 2008 before the Democrat "hug a thug" policies.

Here is the description of the shooting.
On November 14, 2007, Joe Horn, 61, spotted two men allegedly breaking into his next-door neighbor's home in Pasadena, Texas. He called 911 to summon police to the scene. While on the phone with emergency dispatch, Horn stated that he had the right to use deadly force to defend property, referring to a law (Texas Penal Code §§ 9.41, 9.42, and 9.43) which justified the use of deadly force to protect Horn's home. Horn exited his home with his shotgun, while the 911 operator tried to dissuade him from that action several times. On the 911 tape, he is heard confronting the suspects, saying, "Move, and you're dead",[3] immediately followed by the sound of a shotgun blast, followed by two more.[4] Following the shootings Mr. Horn told the 911 operator, "They came in the front yard with me, man, I had no choice!"[5]

Police initially identified the dead men in Horn's yard as 38-year-old Miguel Antonio DeJesus and 30-year-old Diego Ortiz, both residents of Houston, and of Afro-Latino descent. However, DeJesus was actually an alias of an individual named Hernando Riascos Torres.[3] Torres and Ortiz were carrying a sack with cash and jewelry taken from the home of Joe Horn's next-door neighbor. Both had criminal convictions in Colombia and had been convicted on drug trafficking charges.[1] Police found a Puerto Rican man's identification card on Ortiz. Torres had three identification cards from Colombia, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic, and had been previously sent to prison for dealing cocaine. Torres had been deported in 1999.[6]

An unidentified plainclothes police detective responding to the 911 call arrived at the scene before the shooting, and witnessed the escalation and shootings while remaining in his car.[3] His report on the incident indicated that one of the men who was killed "received gunfire from the rear".[1] Police Capt. A.H. "Bud" Corbett, a spokesman for the Pasadena Police Department, stated that the two men ignored Mr. Horn's order to freeze and that one of the suspects ran towards Horn before angling away from him and toward the street when they were shot in the back. The medical examiner's report could not specify whether they were shot in the back due to the ballistics of the shotgun wound.[7] Pasadena police confirmed that the two men were shot after they ventured into Horn's front yard. The plain clothes detective did not arrest Horn.
So it was two! That was the one I remembered. Mostly because I was fairly new here and we had like a 20 page back and forth over it...LOL.

I just did a search and couldn't find the thread. It got pretty nasty at times. Maybe Charles deleted it... I know he threatened to ban a few people over some of the exchanges. Hahaha Oh Man! Them were some good times! :biggrinjester:
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:14 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Arlington man shoots burglar leaving neighbors house with items - was the shooting legal
Replies: 13
Views: 3736

Re: TX: Arlington man shoots burglar leaving neighbors house with items - was the shooting legal

philip964 wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:57 pm To me this hinges on the confrontation with the neighbor.

“He dropped the things he was stealing and came at me, I was in fear of my life”. If that was the case it would be helpful.

Back shot would not be helpful.

The neighbor may have also entered the house through the busted front door, when he was confronted by the burglar, that would be the best, since to me he was an agent of the homeowner.

Guy in Pasadena, who shot and killed two burglars next door, I don’t think had been give real specific and recently, watch my house request from the neighbor. He was semi acting on his own. DA made his life hell for two years. We also had a racial issue. Plus our Pasadena neighbor killed two. I don’t remember if they were front shot with a 12 gauge, but they were in the front yard.

I thought there was one in Pasadena where one guy was killed under the same circumstances. Neighbor had ask him to watch the house while he was on vacation. Maybe it was two but I swear I think it was one. The one I am speaking of was like 12 years ago.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:25 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: Arlington man shoots burglar leaving neighbors house with items - was the shooting legal
Replies: 13
Views: 3736

Re: TX: Arlington man shoots burglar leaving neighbors house with items - was the shooting legal

Reminds me of the guy in Pasadena years ago who shot a burglar leaving a neighbors house. His was at night though.

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