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by 03Lightningrocks
Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:15 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: man fleeing in your BMW in daytime - can you legally shoot
Replies: 18
Views: 5029

Re: TX: man fleeing in your BMW in daytime - can you legally shoot

RoyGBiv wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:12 pm I am not a lawyer. This is only my OPINION.

A car is property. Only if the thief car jacked the vehicle while the owner was inside would it fall under protection of persons.
in this case...... Emphasis is mine..... The "and" at the end of 2B should not be overlooked. It is non-trivial.
Sec. 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.

(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and:

(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or

(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.


Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
Was it not just in the past month some congress womans husband opened fire on a guy who stole their car. No charges, nothing. It dropped from the news like a story about potato prices.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:19 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: TX: man fleeing in your BMW in daytime - can you legally shoot
Replies: 18
Views: 5029

Re: TX: man fleeing in your BMW in daytime - can you legally shoot

srothstein wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:08 pm I think it really depends on the time of day and the official sunset that day. Since the vehicle was unoccupied, it needs to be covered in PC section 9.42 for deadly force in defense of property. That justifies it for theft at nighttime (more than 30 minutes after official sunset until 30 minutes before official sunrise.
Same rules for deer hunting. Only you can't shoot them after sunset and before sunrise. Ghetto thugs make a good substitute to fill in the time.

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