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Diode wrote:Thanks Wilson I didnt know they even existed. Maybe they wont rattle like this original one. :)

Kel-Tec doesn’t advertise the 12-rounders even on the P-11 accessory page. I guess they are afraid they would need to change the name from P-11 to P-13

I suspect the 12-rounder was a by-product of the introduction of the P-40 (and .357 conversion) as the magazine design was introduced at that time. It didn’t take much imagination to see this new follower and stronger spring could be put in a 9mm tube giving two extra rounds. This was of course illegal for anyone but LEOs under the Clinton gun ban until it’s expiration.

I’ve seen a dozen threads on various Kel-Tec Forums on how to fix a rattling magazine but I’ve never tried it. I have a big box of P-11 magazines, so the ones that rattle become range only. Kel-Tec will actually replace magazines that rattle, so when you get your 12-rounders you can ship the rattlers back or try one of those fixes

Diode wrote:I almost bought that Karh PM9 at the G.R.Brown show a couple of weeks ago but I found a Kel-Tec 9mm at Brownells ( I think) and fell in love. It is the smallest 9mm I have ever seen. It actually fits completly in my back pocket. It;s DAO but shoots real nice. Might take a look at it, I paid $218.00 for it.

Be sure to pickup a 12-round (formerly LEO) flush fitting magazine for your P-11. This magazine is the same size as the 10 rounder but has a different follower and spring. Brock Pfund adversary13@adelphia.net usually has some in stock at a good price or you can call Kel-Tec 800-515-9983 and specify the 12 round magazine.