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by Kerbouchard
Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:06 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!
Replies: 131
Views: 41335

Re: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!

Greybeard wrote:"all you can shoot"

Sorry, such (especially in 3-4 hour sessions on weekends) could make limited space unavailable for primary purposes (like training and testing and other members' practice).

"The conflict that does not exist does not need reslution."
Your points are valid. I understand it's a small range with limited spots.
I'll try to get by there on your next open house. Maybe we can sign up for a course...you can never have enough training, and after all, you are only like 3 miles away from my house.

But for the original topic, I'm still stuck going to Quail Creek for the majority of my shooting.
Quail Creek:
Con's:
Range Nazi's
No rapid fire
Cold Range so can't shoot concealed carry unless I unholster and clear weapon prior to getting out of car(which is what I do)
15/25 yard only pistol range
Some people are idiots

Pro's:
Range Nazi's yell at the idiots(admittedly, sometimes they yell at more than just the idiots)
Can pick up brass(another plus is that the idiots that are there don't pick up their own brass, so it makes it easier to put up with them)
Can shoot as many guns for as long as my ammo holds out for a reasonable price.
Use any targets you want, even paper plates(I print targets off the internet)
Rarely have to wait for a 'lane'
Less than 20 minute drive from Highland Village

Ranges are a compromise. There has only been one range I went to that was perfect. It's a private range, and he only opens it to his former students and some fellow CHL's. Plus it was free, so I am biased. But it is also down by Canton.

Until then, I'll take as many training classes as I can, shoot as much as I can, and try to become as proficient as I can.

I also figured out OnTarget was about 10 minutes from my w@#k so I'll try it out today or tomorrow.

Thanks for your guy's input on ranges and sorry for the thread hijack.
by Kerbouchard
Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:31 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!
Replies: 131
Views: 41335

Re: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!

Greybeard wrote:"for anybody to require me to take one of their classes to shoot I thought was a little overboard."

"Everything from the macho guys that want their girl friends to shoot their .357 as there first shot to the reservist that came up there in uniform last week with two colt six guns and thought he was a cowboy."

;-)
Okay, I see your point. Touche. If the Freedom plan was a year long, all you can shoot freedom plan, me and my wife would have been signed up the first time I saw the website...
by Kerbouchard
Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:42 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!
Replies: 131
Views: 41335

Re: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!

FIFTY wrote:
Kerbouchard wrote:What's left?
I go to Targetmasters in Garland and have not noticed any unreasonable restrictions on their shooters. They are definitely worth taking a look at.
Targetmasters is over an hour drive. With gas prices as they are, thats just not concievable for a weekly trip.

From the dentoncountysport website it seems they are the closest. I believe less than 5 minutes. But their time requirements vs price leave it out of the mix.

I think I will have to stick with Quail Creek. I can live with a cold range. I know it's cold before I get there. I think the people who expect it to be a hot range are the ones who cause most of the problems. And yes, I get yelled at, at least 2-3 times per trip for rapid fire...That is the restriction that annoys me the most. I'll set up 5 targets as a W, and shift target each time. And they still get on to me for the 1 shot per 2 seconds.

But they let me pick up my(and other's if they don't reload) brass, and that's a definite plus.

I will get by Targetmaster's sometime in the next week or so. If it's a lot better than Quail Creek, than I will probably go up there more often. Thanks for the recommendation.
by Kerbouchard
Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:16 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!
Replies: 131
Views: 41335

Re: Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!

My first message should probably have been something else, but you guys have probably been in this area longer than I have, so here it goes.

I've checked out the dentoncountysports website several times, and thought about joining, but for anybody to require me to take one of their classes to shoot I thought was a little overboard. Also, the 'freedom' plan was about the least amount of freedom I had ever seen. I usually go to the range 1-2 times per week and usually stay for 3-4 hours. With there freedom plan, I could shoot for about a month before my time ran out.

The last time I went to DFW guns, they charged me and my wife, then assigned us one lane even though we paid for two and asked for two. Then they required me to use their targets, the lighting was inadequate, and they wouldn't let me use my own safety glasses because they had a slight yellow tint. I can almost agree with the safety glass requirement because the lighting was so poor.

I did meet somebody on another forum that has his own range and I have visited his range once. Probably the most fun I've ever had at a range. Timer's, draw from holsters, reactive targets, the whole nine yards...

So, for all of those who will 'never go to Quail Creek again.' What's left? I have been going to quail creek at least once a week, and I leave my holster in my car and bring whatever I am shooting to the line in a case.

I do understand the frustration about not having a responsible range where common sense is used, but from what I have seen up there, it's not a responsible range. Everything from the macho guys that want their girl friends to shoot their .357 as there first shot to the reservist that came up there in uniform last week with two colt six guns and thought he was a cowboy.

I definitely don't think Quail Creek is the best, but out of the 3 pages of reasons not to go to quail creek, there have only been 2 suggestions of where else to go, and I think that those two places are even worse.

I am new to the Lewisville area, so if there is an affordable, responsible gun range that does support CHL in Tx, I would love to hear about it.

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