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by Blinking Dog
Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:41 pm
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: What about reducing non-carry locations?
Replies: 26
Views: 3667

Re: What about reducing non-carry locations?

Excaliber wrote:We CAN carry in churches, amusement parks, and hospitals so long as they're not posted with a 30.06.

As the original poster to this thread I'll weigh in and say that I'm aware of the rules, but I have yet to see a hospital that is not 30.06. I haven't seen a posted church. Amusement parks are a mix. If I were to divulge my complete opinion, I'd like to see the 30.06 sign go away altogether. There is so much confusion over the sign by CHL folks and establishments posting them (mostly discussion of whether the sign is legal or not). I don't think this helps the CHL concept. The simple answer is to pick a few spots that are absolutely banned for CHL, and that's it. Period, end of story.
Excaliber wrote:As a heads-up for people, bars are going to be the biggest rallying point for the opposition...Many people were willing to risk re-election to pass CHL in 1995, but no one is going to risk re-election to let CHLs carry in bars. Again, this is just political reality.
Charles - I understand your opinion, but the bar issue is one where we the rules are double-dipping. We already have no intoxicated carry, so why do we need a no-51% carry? I'm willing to write letters, make calls...whatever. And if it is wrapped up in an omnibus CHL law seems like we ought to have a fighting chance. :txflag:
by Blinking Dog
Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:49 am
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: What about reducing non-carry locations?
Replies: 26
Views: 3667

Re: What about reducing non-carry locations?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I have written a bill to put CHLs in the same group of people that are exempt from both TPC §§46.02 and 46.03; i.e. LEOs, all judges (including municipal and JP's), railroad LEO's, probation officers (both types), county/district attorneys, and a few others. Whether it will be introduced is a tactical decision that will be made when we have a lot more information about the makeup of committees, chairmen, etc.

Chas.
Thanks, and please keep me/us posted. This is probably the biggest political issue on my mind these days...well, Texas-specific political issue anyway. I'd like to support it in any way I can.
by Blinking Dog
Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:48 am
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: What about reducing non-carry locations?
Replies: 26
Views: 3667

Re: What about reducing non-carry locations?

To be clear, I wouldn't envision visiting with a criminal with my gun strapped to my hip. I think what ever LEOs do in with regard to a facility would seem to be a good starting place...secure lockers? And for the record, I don't know anyone in a correctional facility and don't plan on visiting any so I don't know what the procedure is or how they are set up. And if we had to "give" on that one, ok. Maybe there is another one on the list that makes sense, who knows, but in general I think the list ought to be practically wiped out.

I'm annoyed about the more commonplace locations. For instance, I'm not a drinker but I do meet friends from time to time at a sports bar to watch a game, or to shoot pool or darts. Even though I am not drinking I can't carry. This one is the most frustrating since there is already a rule against carrying while intoxicated.

Can't visit a friend in the hospital on the way home without disarming (haven't seen a hospital yet without a 30.06 sign). I go to sporting events, again no drinking yet can't carry...anyone walk the 2 miles back to their car after a Cowboys game and NOT wish they had their gun?

I can go down the list and point out many of the places I might visit during the course of a day or week that, based on the rules as they stand, I'm either in the parking lot disarming and re-arming a lot, or just not carrying because of the hassle. To me these rules are a back door way to neuter the law.
by Blinking Dog
Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:09 am
Forum: 2009 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: What about reducing non-carry locations?
Replies: 26
Views: 3667

What about reducing non-carry locations?

I'm wondering if there is anyone pushing for a reduction of places where CHL is prohibited? I see a lot of other interesting bills being discussed, but I don't see the main thing that I'm most interested in - being able to carry almost everywhere. I'm afraid the open carry issue is detracting from this...maybe I'm wrong.

Charles, who is the right person to push this? I wrote a letter to Gov. Perry a while back and copied my State Senator and State Representative. Any other ideas?

Here is the verbiage of the letter I wrote, hopefully it will make it clear what I'm talking about:

Dear Governor Perry:

The reason for my letter is to provide feedback on Texas’ concealed handgun license (“CHL”) law. I’m not a political activist, and I’m not writing at the urging of any group. I’m writing on behalf of myself and my family. I’m a regular guy, a father of three, educated, a hard worker, a former Army officer, law abiding citizen, and a man who wants to take advantage of every legal means available to protect myself and my family. To that end, I decided to take an extra step in protecting myself and my family by obtaining a CHL. In the course of applying to obtain a CHL I was educated on Texas’ concealed carry regulations and was dismayed to learn that even after attending a lengthy class, and submitting to a strict background check, there are numerous restrictions placed on licensees who ultimately receive a CHL.

To start, the point of carrying a concealed handgun is to have the means, if confronted with a deadly situation, to defend oneself whenever and wherever that situation arises. A potential victim cannot predict when or where a violent crime may happen, so the idea of concealed carry is to have a handgun on your person at all times. Texas’ CHL law undermines this concept because the regulations list numerous locations where a CHL holder cannot lawfully carry their handgun. The current regulations prohibit CHL holders from exercising their right to carry in the following specific locations, or under the following conditions:

Public or private school premises
High school, collegiate, or professional sporting events
Hospitals or nursing homes
Amusement parks
Churches, synagogues or other places of worship
Any meeting of a government entity
A place of business that derives 51% of its income from serving or selling alcohol
Racetracks
Polling places when voting is open
Government courts or court offices
A correctional facility
Within 1,000 ft of a TDCJ place of execution on execution day
In the secured area of an airport
Carrying a concealed handgun while intoxicated

I understand the restriction on concealed handguns in the secured area of an airport and I agree that carrying a concealed handgun while intoxicated should be against the law, but I do not understand and do not agree with the other restricted areas on the list. My general belief is that once a person passes the rigorous background check to be able to carry a concealed handgun that person ought to be able to carry their handgun at all times, where ever they go.

I respectfully urge you and the Texas legislature to review the CHL regulations and let the history and evidence on concealed carry in Texas and elsewhere be your guide. When our CHL law became effective there were wild predictions by the anti-gun establishment, and even some in law enforcement, that crime would become rampant, that simple traffic accidents would erupt into shootouts, and Texas would succumb to its Wild West past. We are over a decade into CHL and none of this hysteria has come to pass. The apocalyptic predictions of those who would like to restrict concealed carry by law abiding citizens have once again been proven wildly exaggerated, and what we have truly seen is that the crime rate of CHL holders is insignificant. I would hope that common sense will prevail, and that a rational and unemotional review will result in a recommendation to remove the vast majority of the impediments to lawful concealed carry in Texas.

The CHL qualification process, which is very stringent, is working. In Texas we screen CHL applicants for mental health issues, felony and misdemeanor crimes even if the person received deferred adjudication, chemical or alcohol dependency, restraining orders, back taxes and defaults on student loans and child support. I believe this is the right way to administer the program, which is to apply a microscope to each CHL applicant before the license is granted so that we only grant licenses to people who prove to be law abiding citizens. However, once an applicant passes the strict background check Texas CHL laws ought to leave the person alone and let them exercise their best judgment as to when and where to carry a concealed handgun. Limiting the locations a CHL holder may carry their concealed handgun effectively negates the right to carry in the first place.

In conclusion, I’d ask that you assist me in expanding my ability to protect myself and my family and repeal the vast majority of restricted locations that are resident in our current CHL laws.

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