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brainman wrote: § 545.057. PASSING TO THE RIGHT. (a) An operator may pass
to the right of another vehicle only if conditions permit safely
passing to the right and:
(1) the vehicle being passed is making or about to make
a left turn; and
(2) the operator is:
(A) on a highway having unobstructed pavement not
occupied by parked vehicles and sufficient width for two or more
lines of moving vehicles in each direction; or
(B) on a one-way street or on a roadway having
traffic restricted to one direction of movement and the roadway is
free from obstructions and wide enough for two or more lines of
moving vehicles.
(b) An operator may not pass to the right by leaving the main
traveled portion of a roadway except as provided by Section
545.058.

Just so readers don't get misinformed here. Passing on the right in moving traffic, which is what was being discussed here, is illegal. Posting a statute for a vehicle that is stopped and/or slowed to make a left turn is disingenuous. In no case may you pass on the right if the vehicle in front of you is at or exceeding the speed limit, and that's the law. Test it in places where the law is enforced and you will get a ticket. When you go to court to fight your ticket, take the statute that was provided to you by brainman as your defense, and see how you do. Good luck!

brainman wrote: Since you don't want to find it, I will.

§ 545.057. PASSING TO THE RIGHT. (a) An operator may pass
to the right of another vehicle only if conditions permit safely
passing to the right and:
(1) the vehicle being passed is making or about to make
a left turn; and
(2) the operator is:
(A) on a highway having unobstructed pavement not
occupied by parked vehicles and sufficient width for two or more
lines of moving vehicles in each direction; or
(B) on a one-way street or on a roadway having
traffic restricted to one direction of movement and the roadway is
free from obstructions and wide enough for two or more lines of
moving vehicles.
(b) An operator may not pass to the right by leaving the main
traveled portion of a roadway except as provided by Section
545.058.

Passing on the right is legal. Impeding traffic in the passing lane is not.

And none of the conditions you listed above allows for passing on the right as I described. So you are wrong again, but nice try. The more you write, the more fun it gets.

anygunanywhere wrote:


Anygunanywhere

Ranger Class 4-81 here. Can't stand pseudo-Ranger tabs.

brainman wrote:

Bullitt wrote:

brainman wrote:

Bullitt wrote:And just for the record, passing on the right is illegal if the car in front you is doing the speed limit. This is because that car in front may also be trying to pass but is doing so at the posted speed limit.

Wrong.

No, that is correct.

Ok, let's play. Show me the law.

No, but since you are insistent, and the mod has already stepped in once, and since you were the one to derail this thread with your first post, I'll just hit the complaint button.

brainman wrote:

Bullitt wrote:And just for the record, passing on the right is illegal if the car in front you is doing the speed limit. This is because that car in front may also be trying to pass but is doing so at the posted speed limit.

Wrong.

No, that is correct.

magicglock wrote:That was not very nice. I stand corrected, courtesy is not contagious.

Okay, I take back the Jethro part, but you weren't being courteous either. Nor have a few other responders here, none of whom I "threw the first punch" to. Let's move on.

The point is that law states the speed limit is 65 mph on Beltway 8. It is seldom that in either lane. Even at the brisk clip of 80 mph, there are speeders, weavers, and tailgaters who want to go faster. Doing 65 mph in the right lane is not an option at certain times of the day. It causes anger in many drivers who get behind a 65'er. I see this everyday between I-45 and Hwy 59 on Beltway 8. Drivers are pushed into going 80 whether they like it or not. Drivers don't keep their distance either. They will camp on another car's rear while both are going 80. It's like NASCAR. Then someone up ahead does a lane change, a car brakes, then you have an accordion multi-car collision because there is no distance between cars. The lane change is usually caused by a slalom driver who speeds, weaves, and tailgates. He's insistent on going faster then the flow of traffic. This is more prevalent in the sections where the Beltway has only two lanes, like between I-45 and Hwy 59. There was an accident like this almost everyday, so I changed my departure time from 0615, to 0530. Guess what? The traffic at the earlier time is even faster. This is because there are less cars slowing down the pace. However, there is enough space for passing on the left, so if I am in the right lane, cars can pass easily on the left. I also ride with a 9500ix. These cars passing me at 90 will blow right past a constable. I know the constable has his radar on because my detector picks it up, yet they still don't pull over these speeders. It appears that all the constables want to do is clear the wrecks off of the freeways quickly. Then after passing Hwy 59 the traffic gets slightly more responsible, this is because on Beltway 8 between Hwy 59 and the Westheimer toll plaza there is a known speed trap. I do not believe it is the constables who patrol this section and give out the tickets. I think it is Bellaire police or some other department.

In any case, everybody is in a hurry, and as illustrated in this thread, they have their own concepts of what is right and wrong. Like in my first post, the pickup truck driver thinks he's right, the Lexus driver thinks he's right. The pickup driver pulls a gun. He probably still thinks he was right, and by the way, he was passing on the right to get in front of the Lexus.And just for the record, passing on the right is illegal if the car in front you is doing the speed limit. This is because that car in front may also be trying to pass but is doing so at the posted speed limit.

oohrah wrote:Black & white traffic signs are regulatory, i.e. the law.

Speed limit signs are in black & white.

tonzofphun wrote:Left lane for passing only

If "everyone" is going 80, there is no passing that is taking place since they are traveling at the same speed. Therefore, none of the 80mph drivers should be in the left lane.

Duh. They shouldn't be going 80 either.

magicglock wrote:Uh...I believe you started this earlier with "If I'm going 80 on a 65 speed limit road...".

Read the whole dialog Jethro.

Everybody is going 80. You go with the flow of traffic or you wind up causing an accident. However, a few ambitious guys who want to up the tempo to 90 or 100 don't have the right to put everybody else in danger by slaloming through traffic. I wish going 65 even in the right lane were a possible solution. It's not.

xb12s wrote:

SewTexas wrote: .... Houston, Dallas, even San Anotonio

Especially San Antonio...People come to a complete stop on the feeders to let people merge off of the freeway.

Here it's a race. The car on the ramp and the car in the lane will race. It's a sign of weakness to yield. Same goes for using your turn-signal to change lanes. If you do that, it's a sign of weakness and the adjacent cars will intentionally try to block you from changing lanes.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:...

I'm ok with that if those who are traveling stay at a safe distance until a safe opportunity presents itself. But when does that fantasy happen? I also have an issue when Cletus the frsutrated NASCAR driver, gets frustrated with someone in the left lane and tries to get on MY bumper when I am in the correct lane. Back off!

Exactly! And you can tell from the responses here by some people, they are the ones exceeding the speed limit and feel it is their right to do so. Don't get 'em mad on the road, they might pull their gun on you like that fool in my first post. Or they might even lecture you on the internet

bdickens wrote:

Bullitt wrote: Thanks, I know how to drive.

If I'm going 80 on a 65 speed limit highway, and everybody else is also going 80, nobody should be trying to pass me on the right simply because he/she wants to go 100 mph. Weavers, speeders, and tailgaters do this here on a daily basis. They are out of control.

It doesn't matter. You are impeding the flow of traffic. It is not your place to decide how fast anyone else gets to drive.

You do that stunt in Germany - where people actually do know how to drive as opposed to merely moving a car from one place to another - and you are the one getting the ticket no matter what the speed limit is and how fast they are driving.

Actually, you are wrong. Very wrong. When the car in front of me is also going 80, I can't speed up, nor change lanes if the adjacent car is going 80. If an irresponsible driver chooses to slalom his way through traffic as openings open and close, then he is the one getting the ticket for reckless driving, not me. That's the law in every state. And don't lecture me about Germany, I was stationed there for three years and know all about driving on the autobahn.

brainman wrote:

Bullitt wrote:Drivers are getting more audacious everyday. The speeder-weaver-tailgater is the animal I hate the most. These guys pass on the right and slalom through traffic putting everybody else at risk.

If you're getting passed on the right, then shouldn't you have moved over? It is illegal to impede traffic in the passing lane on the highway.

Thanks, I know how to drive.

If I'm going 80 on a 65 speed limit highway, and everybody else is also going 80, nobody should be trying to pass me on the right simply because he/she wants to go 100 mph. Weavers, speeders, and tailgaters do this here on a daily basis. They are out of control.

I have also been passed by the drivers who think the right shoulder is a passing lane. Usually 'cuz they are too lazy to get out of bed in time in the morning.

bayouhazard wrote:One more reason I love my dash cam. Best car accessory EVER.

Which one do you have? I would like to get one too. Drivers are getting more audacious everyday. The speeder-weaver-tailgater is the animal I hate the most. These guys pass on the right and slalom through traffic putting everybody else at risk.

This was a couple of months ago. I-45 on-ramp (Gulf Fwy) at Clear Lake City Blvd, northbound during morning commute. A pickup truck and Lexus are jockeying for position to get to the on-ramp lane. They are two cars ahead of me. The pickup stops angled in front of the Lexus as part of this "fight" to see who can get on the freeway first, the Lexus is then forced to stop or otherwise hit the pickup. Pickup driver lowers his window and extends a pistol out his window with his left hand. The Lexus backs up as much as he can. Pickup speeds away on the feeder after showing the pistol, Lexus gets on the freeway.