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by Oldgringo
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: MO: Armed man arrested at Walmart.
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Re: MO: Armed man arrested at Walmart.

Keith B wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:07 pm
Syntyr wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:30 pm
philip964 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pm https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9685741/w ... n-el-paso/

Being refered to as a gun nut.
It still doesn't mention his real intentions.
And there is the problem. Technically he did nothing wrong except maybe if the da wants to charge him with disturbing the peace or something similar. It’s a fine line between stupidity and criminality. I am REALLY surprised the guy didn’t wind up ventilated! If he had been I wouldn’t have lost sleep over societies loss to the greater good. Certainly not helping calm the situation any.

As to the question up post I am 99.9 percent sure I would have ran and gotten me and my family out of there.
The arrested him for making a terroristic threat, but as of yet has not been officially charged. Below is the lowest level charge:
574.125. Making a terrorist threat, third degree — penalty. — 1. A person commits the offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree if he or she, with criminal negligence with regard to the risk of causing the evacuation, quarantine or closure of any portion of a building, inhabitable structure, place of assembly or facility of transportation, knowingly:

(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life; or

(2) Communicates a knowingly false report of an incident or condition involving danger to life; or

(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life.

2. The offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.

3. No offense is committed under this section by a person acting in good faith with the purpose to prevent harm.
As for the guy drawing on him, the threat was perceived by the people in the store, and the manager evacuated the store by pulling the fire alarm. The off-duty firefighter had every reason to believe the threat was there and valid, and would be justified in threatening use of deadly force by drawing down on the guy.
IANAL but, given recent events, I'd like to think I'd do what the fireman did while calling 911 and clearly identifying myself and the situation. I would not appreciate getting shot by an over-anxious LE responder.

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