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ShootDontTalk wrote:
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"avoid every appearance of evil"
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Keith B wrote:Alright folks, this is getting to the personal attack level. Stop now or this will be locked.

RPBrown wrote:

AndyC wrote:"Loud pipes save lives" - I have some empathy for that, having being almost sideswiped by cars as a youngster.

ScooterSissy wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Yeah, but 100% of the bikers shooting it out at Twin Peaks were bad guys and not choir boys.

What, exactly, makes them all "bad guys", and from where do you get your information?
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mojo84 wrote: Just about everybody has some redeeming quality.

ShootDontTalk wrote:
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As I get older, I learn that associating with people of questionable or unknown integrity is not really something I want to do. When bad things happen to good people who do associate with them, I can't really say they should be surprised. Just me though.

jmra wrote:According to a story released by WFAA, Twin Peaks will no longer host bike nights at any of its 76 locations nationwide.

cb1000rider wrote:

Target1911 wrote: You do realize that the same people on this forum that preach "innocent until proven guilty" are the same ones that are jumping on the FRY EM ALL wagon? The same ones that scream the MSM is liberal and full of it are not willing to accept that some of these guys are GREAT PEOPLE....but because they belong to a Motorcycle Club they must be criminals....

That's my concern too. I'm not entirely sure that wearing one of these vests means that you've committed your life to a criminal lifestyle, contrary to Sons of Anarchy fiction. I'm not saying that they're alter-boys, but 1M bail for wearing a vest, associating with the "wrong" group - while not smart, there was ZERO sorting out of who did what here.. It's arrest them all - and I can live with that, but supported buy a judicial branch who just wiped all of them out financially by sticking them in jail essentially without bond... That's not innocent until guilty.. And the financial reality is that it's going to be real hard to hire an attorney that could provide a chance at reasonable justice after a month of unemployment. It's not like anyone is going to stand up and take these cases pro-bono.

Deserve it? Maybe, but in no way is it fair or innocent until proven guilty.

I haven't met a lot of bad bikers. I have met a lot of bikers that look counter-culture. Many of those have the look, but with the money to ride a $20k motorcycle, they're very mainstream at home. Personally, I've got zero fear when one of these clubs rides through locally. And I don't really know what they're doing behind the scenes. I'm sure there are lots of true counter-culture bikers that I haven't met.. I don't know many patched-up types.

All I'm sayin' is SHOW me that they're criminals. Being involved in a big group altercation doesn't make 200 people criminals. Certainly some are. Certainly some are not. We're all pretty much pro self-defense here.. Are we 100% sure that it was an organized line up and shoot with 0% self-defense going on?

Most of us - being in the wrong place at the wrong time, would probably be caught holding a firearm in this situation. Not all bad guys carry guns. Not all bad guys have a leather vest and a patch logo on it. I'm not down with conviction based on clothes or association, sorry.

Zero collateral damage to people? Headshots. Just bikers dead? Something is really really odd here... Waco may be more scary than Williamson county.

howdy wrote:Pictures of the arrested bikers....a real sharp bunch

http://www.click2houston.com/news/33084522" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TVGuy wrote:

koine2002 wrote:
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I'm not quite sure where you pull this from, but it's complete and utter hogwash. Five minutes of research on the internet will prove the case.

All of the Patels in the world are about as related as all of the Smiths.

SewTexas wrote:

Abraham wrote:What's up with the manager of TP.

Was he intimidated into welcoming the motorcycle thugs or is he a member or a past member or related in some way to these criminals?

Anyone know?

Thanks!

actually I've heard from several different places that there is speculation that he is somehow involved with one of the gangs.