There it is, that is the bottom line. It either begins at home or it doesn't.speedsix wrote:...the way we were raised produced young people who valued and respected life, others' rights, and what was right and wrong...we'd been shown good examples either at home, school, or in the community...and the majority of adults we were around were responsible and moral...that environment didn't produce angels, (speaking for myself) but at least we knew what the rules are and that life was better if we followed them...today, I'd guess about half the youth get NONE OF THE ABOVE...and make choices with no foundation or true north to rely on...and that's sad...tragic...and often deadly...
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- Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:08 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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The question posed in the last paragraph of Steve's response above is a tough one. My response is simply that the actions of people of any age have consequences and if that was not learned in the home, shame on the parents and too bad for you.speedsix wrote:...you guys are changin' my mind...my heart is sympathetic to the younguns...but my mind knows gradin' on the curve hurts everyone takin' the test...
- Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:18 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Well said!Hoosier Daddy wrote:I have made many mistakes. I guess the difference is, as an adult, I'm mature enough to deal with the consequences of my mistakes. There have been many discussions about traffic stops in this forum, and invariably someone says you shouldn't speed if you don't want to get a ticket. I have to admit that's a fair statement. I think it's as fair, or maybe more fair, to make a similar statement when we're talking about assault or B&E instead of driving 110% of the number on a sign.Gambit wrote:Jeez. I hope you hardliners never make mistakes.
- Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:50 pm
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Skimming through the thread and the result of your above research seems to have been glossed over. If I'm reading this right, your research seems to support the generally accepted age of 21 for eligibility for a CHL among - other things?srothstein wrote:I have been doing some research that is related to this type of subject for a school paper. It is now well accepted medically that the part of the brain that controls judgment does not fully develop until the early twenties. It is also well known that most people stop committing crimes as they pass through their twenties and into their thirties.
From this, I have developed a theory I am working on that some juvenile delinquency is not caused by a desire to commit crime, especially not to injure people. There is a certain element of thrill seeking in committing what the juvenile sees as a victimless crime. This is not to say the crime itself is victimless, but it may be seen that way by the juvenile, like shoplifting.
If enough real research is done and could prove me right (I have not yet figured out what is needed in this respect), it could indicate a need to reform some of our juvenile justice laws. For example, many more crimes should be forgiven if there is still a clean record after enough years and some age have passed.
Of course, I also do not support permanent bans on anything for many convictions, even for adults and real victims. If the person has gone straight and is safe to be in society, there is no need for further punishment.