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by Oldgringo
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:46 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Update: AUSTIN clerk convicted for shooting beer thief
Replies: 31
Views: 4949

Re: AUSTIN clerk convicted of MURDER for shooting beer thief

Even in my very earliest cowboy :fire movies, better than a half century ago, "backshooters" were looked upon with disdain. I reckon it must be true; there is nothing new under the sun.
by Oldgringo
Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:10 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Update: AUSTIN clerk convicted for shooting beer thief
Replies: 31
Views: 4949

Re: AUSTIN store clerk prosecuted for shooting man stealing

baldeagle wrote:Right now, after eleven hours of deliberation, the jury is hung. I found this interesting:
However, prosecutors argue Romero committed murder because Vielma ran away, dropped the beer, and did not have a weapon.
The law reads:
§ 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property;
and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
So the prosecutors are arguing that he followed the law and therefore should be found guilty of murder? I can see why the jury is deadlocked. Some jurors are saying, "The law says....and therefore he's not guilty" and other jurors are saying, "But he didn't have to use deadly force...."
If nothing else, this thread clearly demonstrates that shooting people, for whatever reason/s, is not a cut and dried and/or clearly defined "guilty or not guilty" situation. I bet it ain't cheap either.
by Oldgringo
Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:30 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Update: AUSTIN clerk convicted for shooting beer thief
Replies: 31
Views: 4949

Re: AUSTIN store clerk prosecuted for shooting man stealing

Reading up on the law does not a lawyer make. :rules:

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