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WildBill wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:We got our CHL's purely for self-defense purposes. We're adults and we know that shooting the worst of the bad guys is not going to be for free. The above having been said, I have learned more about our reponsibilities and liabilities of having a CHL and the law from this forum than our class ever started to touch on.

A former LEO told me that some LEOs, even the "macho" and "gung-ho" types, can have severe psychological problems after shooting and killing someone. Even if the shooting was necessary to prevent themselves from being killed.

Westfield wrote:I re-read the OP's original question. I cannot believe that he attended a quality CHL class. Questions like the one posed here show a complete ignorance to the law and the basics of using deadly force. Carrying a hand gun is serious business, I hope the OP is a troll and not a legitimate CHL holder.

WildBill wrote:IMO, the tone of this thread was set by the wording of the title: "After you Fire and Kill." Maybe the OP wanted to capture people's attention by being "unintentionally sensationalistic", but the premise that you should kill someone so that there are no witnesses is absolutely ludicrous. I would hope that most members of the forum, if not all, know this. So maybe the poster of the question wanted or needed some kind of validation from a more rational or trustworthy source.

Every student has the right and the duty to question what is being "taught" in any class. This is where the TexasCHL Forum excels. After the formal CHL class the student can digest the subject matter and formulate scenarios and ask the "what ifs"? This forum offers the opportunity for these questions to be clarified and answered.

As far as the quality of CHL instruction, I have been extremely fortunate to have two of the best instructors in Texas. I can't vouch for other instructors, but I believe that the DPS does a good job screening, training and certifying Texas CHL instructors. I also believe that every CHL is responsible for their own knowledge and learning. That is one reason that I suggest taking additional training after obtaining the CHL.

Over the last 40 years I have listened to thousands of people brag about their knowledge of shooting, firearms and the law. Most of what I have heard was from blowhards with an inflated ego and a distorted view of reality. That is why I make sure I have fresh batteries in my Hogwash Detector and keep it tuned and calibrated.
When reading the TexasCHL Forum, it doesn't go off too often.

Hoi Polloi wrote:

Purplehood wrote:

Abraham wrote:Hoi Polloi,

Thank you and no hard feelings.

Admittedly, my post was cryptic.

What I was weakly alluding to is what seems, emphasis on seems, as I could be quite wrong, is a sudden increase of what appears to be questions by very new members that if answered poorly would make CHLers look like vigilantes. There seems to be a very recent pattern of this type question emerging - though again, I could be wrong.

As for asking questions - I was told in the Army that no question is stupid or wrong and I believe that. It often take courage to ask questions...

I think that those very scenarios that are posed tend to bring out the best and the worst among us that post...and many times I suspect they are designed to do just that.
Unfortunately the medium of internet posting is not conducive to making an accurate assessment of who is asking an honest question and who is baiting a forum.

Indeed--or of who is honestly responding, for that matter.

WildBill wrote:

pbwalker wrote:

glock27 wrote:not so much into depth, the main focus was only draw with intent to shoot in kill if no other way is out. we didnt get into the after effects of a shooting, when the gun if fired

what about a justified shooting a man in the back who is robbing a store and you happen to be in the back, and he has a gun to the clerk?

The intent is NEVER to shoot and kill. If your instructor taught you that, I'd be concerned. The goal should be to STOP the threat.

This is a basic premise of self defense. If you are unsure of the law, maybe you should obtain some more training. IANAL