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by Oldgringo
Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:56 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

Thank you, Excaliber, for guiding us through this discussion and sharing your experiences and training. :tiphat:

The scenario presented by the OP is a virtual no-win situation for the average Joe/Jane on the street whether armed or not. Call the police, they'll come by sooner or later. Call 'em again, it's their job to "serve and protect". (BTW, no one mentioned setting off the Fire Alarm in the building in which you were trapped :mrgreen: )
by Oldgringo
Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:56 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

Hoi,

Assuming for a moment that you had gone through the steps and received your CHL and further assuming you were armed and you found these thugs of various dimension and culture on your vehicle as you were leaving wherever, what would Hoi Polloi do?

:tiphat:
by Oldgringo
Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:39 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

WildBill wrote:
Hoi Polloi wrote:
WildBill wrote:If he goes up and pushes one of them off his car and the thug falls on the pavement and dies, then he could get convicted of manslaughter like the guy in Salinas, CA.
The guy in Salinas, CA was not convicted of manslaughter. He was convicted of misdemeanor assault.
You are correct. He was originally charged with homocide. Mr. Moore plead guilty to a felony assault charge and the judge reduced it to a misdemeanor during sentencing.

I don't want to hijack this thread, because there is already one on this subject. I was using it as an example of how a "simple" situation such as "a push" can escalate into a really bad situation.
Right you are.

The topic question was. "what would YOU do" (in Texas), not what would the lawyers do or what is case law in California or some other weird place.
by Oldgringo
Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:53 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

Fire1141 wrote:I would have called the police. As angry as I would have been with someone damaging my vehicle, it is not worth the...time and cost in defending yourself...
:iagree:
by Oldgringo
Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:34 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

ironsights wrote:there were 4 males and three females. I was armed with a G26 extended mag with 15rds and a 10 rd. back up mag. also had a pocket .380 with two 6 rd. mags.

I was also aware of the crowd of people and knew a gunfight was a bad idea. I was also aware that if i called the police it would take some time for them show. Usually i can find one in a few seconds, but not this night.

I agree with the advice given however, and should have called police instantly. It is true that i might have backlash from this and would normally think that way but its true in a high stress situation that you lose alot of your abilities. I feel like i acted poorly in this situation and am thankful for all of your insight.
S'okay. This may be the best learnin' forum in the world. Carryin' around a loaded gun is serious business.

Good luck and God Bless.
by Oldgringo
Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:03 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

mctowalot wrote:If he had a Taurus Judge, loaded with buckshot, and he began firing at the left side of the group, how fast would he have to sweep the gun to the right to disperse the buckshot evenly?

What time would he reach Chicago?
I may have missed something but I understood that the OP was concerned about damage to his vehicle? If I'm hearing you correctly, you propose shooting holes in the OP's ride to rid it of vermin?
by Oldgringo
Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:58 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

Carry-a-Kimber wrote:If a "group" of uninvited strangers decide to make themselves at home on the hood of my truck, I am not waiting an hour or so for the police to come and tell them to move along.
So, as the OP asked, what would you do?
by Oldgringo
Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:14 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

WildBill wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:I'm with Keith B and Excaliber All The Way (ATW) on this one. SALUT!

Since no one else mentioned it, I will: what if you (one) show your weapon and then the drunken thugs (several) pull theirs? :eek6 What then?
The OP never said how many thugs and girlfriends there were on his car.
You're right as is your custom. The OP did say "a group of thugs and there women".

While I only minored in Math a pretty long time ago, I seem to recall that a group was more than one? I've never known, specifically what constituted "several" as opposed to a "few". Perhaps there was only a threesome on the OP's car?
As I recall from my math classes, also a long time ago:
A single = 1
A couple = 2
Two youts = 2
A few = 3
Several = 4
Some = 5 or more
A group = 6 or more
A quorum = 50% or more of a group
A gang = 7 or more
A crowd = 10 or more
A jury = 12
A baker's jury = 13

So a group of thugs with their woman = 8 or more.
That's a lot of people sitting on a car.
UH OH! Now we have another problem and that's fire power. What if the OP had an 8 shot 1911, or even a 16 round Beretta 92 FS and the group each had stolen 20 round glocks or something?. It's really starting to not look too good for our OP.

Yepper, he should have called the police first.
by Oldgringo
Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:29 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

WildBill wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:I'm with Keith B and Excaliber All The Way (ATW) on this one. SALUT!

Since no one else mentioned it, I will: what if you (one) show your weapon and then the drunken thugs (several) pull theirs? :eek6 What then?
The OP never said how many thugs and girlfriends there were on his car.
You're right as is your custom. The OP did say "a group of thugs and there women".

While I only minored in Math a pretty long time ago, I seem to recall that a group was more than one? I've never known, specifically what constituted "several" as opposed to a "few". Perhaps there was only a threesome on the OP's car?
by Oldgringo
Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:15 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?
Replies: 63
Views: 7634

Re: group of thugs on my car/ what would you do?

I'm with Keith B and Excaliber All The Way (ATW) on this one. SALUT!

Since no one else mentioned it, I will: what if you (one) show your weapon and then the drunken thugs (several) pull theirs? :eek6 What then?

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