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C-dub wrote:I would have convicted him whether he said it was an accident or not. He knew they were coming over before they arrived, loaded up a couple of guns, and went outside. The article doesn't say whether he went out before or after they arrived, but it sounds like he went out before and waited. And he did this without calling the police. He pointed a gun at another person. All bad choices if you don't intend on pulling the trigger.

It must be me?

I see a similarity between this incident in New York and many of the threads on this otherwise august forum wherein certain of our members seem to be looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

What an old dolt I'm turning into. Please excuse me.

seamusTX wrote:

Mr. White was railroaded into his unfortunate statements and he was thrown under the bus for using a gun to protect his family and "castle" in a gun loathing state

* I see no evidence that he was railroaded or compelled to incriminate himself.

** In any case, he made the statement; and if he's not in jail now, he probably will be soon. Maybe a better lawyer could have gotten him acquitted, but he had the lawyer that he had.

*** I think the same set of facts could have led to the same outcome in Texas, and not because of racism.

- Jim

See asterisks added above, please.

* That is your opinion.
** A Johnnie Cochran would have had him out in a heartbeat. (That is my opinon)
*** I'se knows dats rat.

Enough of this jousting, , we're . Be safe, have a nice evening and a vigilant day tomorrow.

duns wrote:One shouldn't form an opinion on the correctness of the verdict in this or any other case based on media reports. To have an informed opinion, one should read the actual court reports. Has anyone done that?

Excuse me, I'm having a problem with your statements above. Isn't an opinion just an opinion whether informed or not? We all have opinions. While my opinions seem to be far more correct and well thought out than many others, they remain only my opinion.

For instance, I opine that Mr. White was railroaded into his unfortunate statements and he was thrown under the bus for using a gun to protect his family and "castle" in a gun loathing state and a thorough review of the court records will prove that to be the case. Did his color come into play? I dunno'; but since yo axed, what was the ethnicity of the slain terrorist?

We all have opinions, dude. For the most part, one is not much better than the next - my opinions excepted.

From Merriam Webster On-Line:

Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈpin-yən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin opinion-, opinio, from opinari
Date: 14th century
1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter b : approval, esteem
2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a generally held view
3 a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert b : the formal expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and principles upon which a legal decision is based

This whole thing, as it is told us, reeks. I strongly suspect the honky police told him to say that he was sorry. The black man was quoted and tried in the white press, etc. etc. The white (?) judge swept it away. A sophomore law student, pro bono, could have a field day with this case on appeal .

Had this happened, in reverse, in the south; well, you know how it would play in the yankee media.

BTW, IANAL but I can read.

seamusTX wrote:Um, it was big news in 2006 and it's big news now. A Google search for "John White manslaughter Garden City" turn up 4,430,000 hits.

BTW, speaking as a native of one, the northern big cities have a racist streak that goes clear to the bone. They just don't like to admit it.

As far as suing, I'm still not a lawyer; but my understanding is that being found guilty of a felony makes it rather difficult to file a lawsuit claiming that you were wronged. Besides, what are you going to get from a bunch of delinquent teenagers?

- Jim

Failed representation and racial bias leading to a mistrial kinda' jumps out at me. Can you say "O. J."?

Parents are responsible (should be) for their underage offspring's behavior; especially, if they're driving the family car or using other family stuff (cell phones) in their assault on this poor black family.

Get a rope! No, get several ropes!

C-dub wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:White needs to sue the pants, etc. off of all those yankee honkys! This is the epitome of racial harassment in Noo Yawk - of all places.

The comments about him being a black man were unfortunate, but I don't think that made a difference.

It would have made a great difference if that had happened in Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia or even Texas, etc.. You bet it would have made a big difference.

The NYT would have made a headline out of it and the POTUS would have his cretins all over it.

White needs to sue the pants, etc. off of all those yankee honkys! This is the epitome of racial harassment in Noo Yawk - of all places.