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by Oldgringo
Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin
Replies: 65
Views: 8900

Re: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin

The Annoyed Man wrote:
srothstein wrote:So, while I may not have been willing to do this, I must support the man's right to carry the rifle and the decision to do so while protesting the oppressive government.
Steve, I don't think anyone is questioning his right to do this, only the wisdom of doing it at this particular time or place, which is why I would not have been willing to do this either. So I guess my question to you is, why your own reluctance, if it were not for the questionable wisdom of the thing? Conversely, if it were not unwise, then why would you be reluctant? I ask because that is really the matter at the heart of the criticism.

And ELB, for the record, there is no shame in wisdom. None.
FWIW, :iagree: with TAM. My reservations are not about "rights", but are about judgement. This was not the time nor the place to be brandishing a so-called "assault rifle" in the face of an hostile media.

As denwego said above:
...I believe people will ignore an issue if not forced to confront it,...
by Oldgringo
Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:40 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin
Replies: 65
Views: 8900

Re: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin

Well said sawdust :tiphat: Once again the voice of maturity has spoken with clear reason. Is anyone listening?

If anyone on this forum is old enough to remember the Dale Carneghie seminars of yesteryear, he taught, "you get more bees with honey than with vinegar". It was true then and it remains true today.

In the words of the late Richard Pryor, "...the cemeteries are full of smart young {you know}". If you're not old enough to remember the wit and wisdom of Richard Pryor, google him.
by Oldgringo
Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:02 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin
Replies: 65
Views: 8900

Re: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin

sawdust wrote:
boomerang wrote: Visibly carrying a rifle at a rally is not much different than audibly quoting scripture (or visibly carrying a bible) at a rally. Both may turn off some people but both rights are protected by the Bill of Rights.
I disagree. While the two actions may be protected, there is a quantum difference in the perceptions of the crowd around you. Our perceptions, correct or incorrect, are a product of the times. Not to make light of the event in any way, if one man were to walk into a cafeteria with a bible and another with an AK-47, which one am I going to be leery of and keep my eye on? (not a time for word-play, please) What if two came in with semi-auto rifles? Are they diners, or is something about to go down. Now, change the scenario just a bit. What if a majority percentage of the diners had their own rifles at their tables? Wouldn't that change the (group) perception when another person walks in with a weapon? That individual no longer is acting outside of the norm. What if the same scene were to be in a school? Would the AK guy want to assert his rights there?

The world according to Ken: A successful general picks his battles carefully. And when the soldiers start deciding which battles they will or will not enjoin, the outcome will be in jeopardy.

Whether the AK guy at the rally was a general or a soldier, I don't know. But I do think that he picked the wrong battle, at the wrong place, in the wrong way, and at the wrong time.

That guy is operating under his own mis-perceptions, just as he thinks all of the "others" are.
:tiphat:

:fire Yeah, yeah, I know. It's easy to shoot holes in "Ken's World", but nonetheless, it is my perception that what I am saying is true, when taken in the context of the post.

As I found out personally, perception will almost always trump reality. And for the public, the "media" is usually who is deciding the perception. I'll be posting an example in the "off-topic" forum, titled "Perception and Reality".
:thumbs2: Now, this guy knows whereof he speaks...too.
by Oldgringo
Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin
Replies: 65
Views: 8900

Re: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin

chabouk wrote:
frazzled wrote: Carrying an AK to a protest makes you look:
1. Stupid
2. Militia like (read terrorist)
3. Redneck crazy.
If you think that you doing so makes you look stupid, then maybe you shouldn't do that.

If you think that him doing so makes you (or anyone else) look stupid, then you're engaging in the same kind of guilt-by-association the Brady Bunch likes to use to compare all of us to mass murderers.
He is the perceived image of you and the rest of us...rightly or wrongly.

My Momma, rest her soul, spent a lot of her time on this celestial ball advising me that, "you are known by the company you keep". It's all in the presentation/perception, Boudreaux
by Oldgringo
Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin
Replies: 65
Views: 8900

Re: Tea Partier Carries AK-47 at Capitol in Austin

Alright! That's the image we want the world to see. We really want the media to report that some dude showed up with an "assault weapon". Right?

Folk, we're trying to win the "hearts and minds" of the populace, not convince them that the liberal anti-2A media is right about misdirected and illiterate gunowners. :banghead:

Is it just me?

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