Do y'all remember what Martin Luther, our Founding Fathers, et al were all about?chad745 wrote:
...Then they printed up a paper with all the things we CAN'T do...
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- Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:08 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Church Safety Team Carry (DPS lawyer says No)
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Re: Church Safety Team Carry (DPS lawyer says No)
- Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:29 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Church Safety Team Carry (DPS lawyer says No)
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Re: Church Safety Team Carry (DPS lawyer says No)
WHAT??? No CHL badge either?The Annoyed Man wrote:I have had this idea rumbling around in my gourd for a while, and I'm very conscious of the DPS limitations. Here's my thoughts based only on my own experience.
A number of us have our CHLs. I know who some are. Some of the folks I know are aware of who some of the others are, etc., etc. What I would like is for an informal gathering perhaps as a planned range day or something where we could all gather and get to know one another a little bit, separately from any church management, so that we will be previously identified to one another in the event of a situation.
That's it. No patrolling. No formal security team. None of that.
- Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:12 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Church Safety Team Carry (DPS lawyer says No)
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Re: Church Safety Team Carry (DPS lawyer says No)
Is Keith suggesting that, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix and/or complicate it'?Keith B wrote:IANAL, but my interpretation is if you function, even as a volunteer, in any named capacity that relates to the security of the church, then may be potentially in violation of the statutes.mr.72 wrote:Are you implying that the church or team leadership have any awareness or requirement of CHL holders in their team? Or, in other words, does a CHL holder give up their right to carry under the authority of their CHL when they join a volunteer team at church that might do something that looks like "security"?Keith B wrote: I personally would not make any official 'team' that had anything to do with or looked like it was involved with security and had CHL's.
OK, but I guess that depends on what the definition of "involved with security" is to begin with.
Now, I am a choir member, play guitar and bass, attend Sunday School, and volunteer on other committees and organizations in the church. I don't 'carry' under any authority of a team or function, and am not ASKED to carry either. If I happen to have to use my CCW in my or an others defense, then it was just happenstance; I was not acting in a role as a member of a security or safety team. IMO that keeps me out of the gray area and OK in the eyes of the statutes.