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by jmorris
Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:14 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam
Replies: 32
Views: 10521

Re: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam

Abraham wrote:Like using one hand to shoot his pistol placing the other on his hip old guy, that was how I was taught to shoot a pistol in the Army in 1967.

Why we had to shoot employing this posture was something not explained.

Years later, I was told it came from the cavalry days. When dismounted, you held the reins in one hand and shot your pistol facing away from your horse in the other. Placing your non-shooting hand on your hip simulated holding the reins.
Sounds likely. It's also the pistol stance used in International Shooting Sports Federation (est. 1907) competions so one probably picked it up from the other. I had a Lt Col in late 70s who used it and called it the ISSF stance.
by jmorris
Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam
Replies: 32
Views: 10521

Re: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam

locke_n_load wrote:
jmorris wrote:
Medley86 wrote:Not that I would expect it to happen often, but since there is no caliber restriction, could one use an AR pistol with a brace, and then since the atf has decided it's ok, shoulder it?
As long as the brace has not been modified and the shoulder use is incidential, sporadic, or situational.
True about the modification. But about the shouldering, that is your interpretation. Texas DPS does not dictate how you must hold a pistol to qualify, and ATF has since "updated" 'their opinion that shouldering a brace does not re-classify the firearm. So in my opinion as an instructor, shouldering would be ok. Not preferred, but ok.
It's late for me so I'm not going on go cut and paste but in my reading of both memos the concern was the incidental shouldering of the pistol and that was what the ATI clarified.
by jmorris
Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam
Replies: 32
Views: 10521

Re: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam

Medley86 wrote:Not that I would expect it to happen often, but since there is no caliber restriction, could one use an AR pistol with a brace, and then since the atf has decided it's ok, shoulder it?
As long as the brace has not been modified and the shoulder use is incidential, sporadic, or situational.

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