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by bdickens
Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:25 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

The Annoyed Man wrote:
bdickens wrote:I'm not all that concerned with a private organization, whether it is the NRA, Bed, Bath and Beyond or the local sewing club keeping a database on people who do business with them. Those are all voluntary transactions and you can choose not to participate.

What concerns me is the .gov conducting surveillance on people with no warrant and no probable cause.
How do you feel about government selling the data they collect about you to private corporations? http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/08/26/s ... vernments/

Forum rules prevent me from discussing that.
by bdickens
Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:43 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

I'm not all that concerned with a private organization, whether it is the NRA, Bed, Bath and Beyond or the local sewing club keeping a database on people who do business with them. Those are all voluntary transactions and you can choose not to participate.

What concerns me is the .gov conducting surveillance on people with no warrant and no probable cause.
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

Somebody needs to work on his reading comprehension skills.

Have a nice day. I'm done going in circles with you; it's making me dizzy.
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:33 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

mojo84 wrote:
bdickens wrote:I'm not talking about the NRA's database, or any other that some private organization has developed.
So, you aren't taking about the topic of this thread?

You still attributed words to me that I did not say.

So this is the first thread on TexasCHLforum.com that has ever veered off-topic?
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:48 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

I'm not talking about the NRA's database, or any other that some private organization has developed.
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:29 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

And that somehow makes it OK for the .gov to spy on its own subjects - I mean citizens?
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:08 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

Dave2 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
bdickens wrote:I know of none, but the damage is done already.
That's right, no case has even been filed, much less reached the Supreme Court, so there was absolutely no basis for your comment.

No damage has been done re: NRA membership material -- the subject matter of this thread.

Chas.
I think his point is that, AFAIK, the courts can only react to lawsuits or charges filed after the fact... They can't prevent the damage from being done in the first place.

Precisely. And Mr. Cotton knows that better than I.

There was absolutely a basis for my comment. Mr. Cotton remarked that the Supreme Court would prevent the .gov from illegally seizing the NRA's database and using that info against gun owners.

I simply pointed out in my typically snide manner that SCOTUS didn't prevent the NSA from illegally monitoring the telephone activities of millions of Americans. Nor, for that matter, has SCOTUS prevented any of the numerous other blatantly illegal and Unconstitutional things that the .gov has done.

Nor can they.

As was rightly pointed out, no lawsuit has been brought yet. Maybe there will be. There certainly should be. And years and years down the road, it may wind it's way around to SCOTUS. And they may or may not decide that the .gov was a bad boy and order them to stop.

And then, the .gov may or may not stop (Texas' voter ID law anyone?).

In the meantime, through all the years that this gets hashed out in the courts, the .gov, through a rogue organization that operates essentially without any oversight as to their activities (yeah, I know, there is supposed to be oversight), continues to blatantly violate the privacy of its subjects - I mean, citizens - under the supposed guise of protecting them from terrorists.

The damage is done. This massive invasion of privacy might be able to be stopped from continuing, but it can't be undone any more than you can get your virginity back.
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:07 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

I know of none, but the damage is done already.
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:37 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

"Las Vegas Democrat Examiner "

That pretty much sums up the veracity of that malarkey.
by bdickens
Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:27 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners
Replies: 44
Views: 8129

Re: So they say the NRA has a database on all gun owners

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
suthdj wrote:just to put on my own tinfoil hat what is to keep a government from seizing all the databases of any gun related industry and using that info to go after gun owners
The United States Supreme Court.

Chas.

The Supreme Court sure has done an outstanding job of keeping the .gov from illegally tracking people's phone records and web activity, haven't they?

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