Whatever. Words mean what they mean. People in "common usage" mistakenly use the words "imply" and "infer" improperly all the time, but that doesn't make them right. If you want to call using the English Language properly "parsing," then you go right ahead.
I'm not going to argue about it with someone who evidently doesn't understand the plain English meaning of the words "shall consist only in levying War against them, [the United States] or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." [emphasis mine] Or with someone who evidently doesn't understand me when I say - again in plain English - that I essentially agree with him in substance.
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- Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:14 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Enforcement Holiday: Safe Harbor for Illegal alien criminals
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- Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:45 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Enforcement Holiday: Safe Harbor for Illegal alien criminals
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Re: Enforcement Holiday: Safe Harbor for Illegal alien crimi
VMI77 wrote: Technically yes, but I'm speaking in the more general sense. If these criminals in Congress can call Snowden a traitor, it's an apt moniker for them as well. They are levying war of a sorts by facilitating a foreign invasion, and in some cases, unrelated to immigration, some are giving aid to our enemies. If Al Qaeda is our enemy and we're making war on them, then giving them weapons, as Obama is doing, is Treason.
There is no "technically yes, but...." It either is or it isn't and the framers of the Constitution quite purposely defined treason very, very narrowly.
The whole "foreign invasion" rhetoric regarding illegal immigration makes for good soundbites to rally the troops with, but we are not at war with Mexico. Is it against the law? Yes. Should it be dealt with? Of course. Is the .gov derelict in their duties by not enforcing out immigration laws? You bet. Is it treason? Not hardly.
Now giving weapons to people who turn out to be Al Qaeda, Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in overthrowing the legitimate government of a country who is more or less our ally (Egypt) or at least not a problem for us (Lybia) - that I have to agree with you on.
- Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:18 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: Enforcement Holiday: Safe Harbor for Illegal alien criminals
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Re: Enforcement Holiday: Safe Harbor for Illegal alien crimi
Not quite.
Article III. Section. 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
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