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by bdickens
Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:54 pm
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never heard of a School having a "Pretend your a Muslim day"
Here ya go:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65659" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://islam-watch.org/DenisSchulz/CAIR ... dswood.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can pray outside in public, you just cant do it on Government land (even then most places wont stop you) or with government backing....
Wanna bet? Even more important, wanna try to stop me?
As far as Thomas Jefferson
*Wrote the Declaration of Independence
*Jefferson was in France during drafting, but did write many letters and had a great influence on the Constitution and those writing it,
Not to mention other things he had an influence on- the founding of the Federal Government, Secretary of State, a vice President, and the 3rd President of the US, I'd say his words have a great effect on the constitution on the founding of America in general, and to disregard his influence is myopic at best
You need to go back and read what I wrote: Jefferson and his ideas may have had an influence on the Constitution, but he was not there for the drafting of it.
The Supreme Court, has gone on to say that there should be a Separation of Church and state is in the Spirit of the Establishment clause (paraphrasing)
The Supreme court also once ruled that no one of African ancestry could claim US citizenship (Dred Scott v. Sandford) and that segregated public accomodations were Constitutional. (Plessy v. Ferguson)

If you read the founding doccuments and the other writings of our founding fathers, it is God this and God that everywhere. They obviously expected that people in public life would express their religious beliefs.

Public expression on one's religious beliefs is not the same as forcing them upon others. What these anti-Christian "athiest" crybabies are doing is forcing their religious beliefs on others. They are no better than fundamentalist zealots. In fact, they are fundamentalist zealots.
by bdickens
Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:43 am
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marksiwel wrote:
bdickens wrote:"Separation of church and state" is a myth perpetrated by anti-Christians and has no basis in the Constitution or any other of our founding documents.
No its a very real thing (even if you dont want it to be)
Look up the "establishment clause" its in the 1st Amendment.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" (among other things)
Then compare that to cases like "McCollum v. Board of Education" a Supreme Court ruling that said (paraphrasing) that teaching a Religion in a public school is against the Establishment clause. The group they ruled against was trying to get some of the Classes they were trying to get taught were JEWISH CLASSES. Do you want your Tax dollars going towards the teaching of Jewish and/or Islamic religions? Do you think THEY want their Tax Dollars going towards Christian classes? No of course not. The government shouldn't have a say on Religion unless its impeding on people's rights (like the Marrying 16 year olds or denying medical care to babies)

Supreme Court says we have a Right to Guns, Free Speech ect. the Supreme court also says you cant MAKE people in prey in School or swear that you believe in god to gain a Government position.

I could go on and on about this subject by I suggest you do your own reading on it. You will find that I am correct

This should help (That or reading the many books on the subject)
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ ... sions.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establishm ... _Amendment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

America was founded by Christians and with a heavy influence on the bible. But there is a reason Government officials do not report or are not required to hold religious positions. our Founding Fathers (Think the Pilgrims) saw what can and will happen when you have a government that is run by Theology, it prohibits FREEDOMS. America was never set up to be run a Christian Nation run by Christians or a particular branch of Christianity, its was a Nation of "The People" who at the time just happened to be for the majority Christians.

You are absolutel;y 100% WRONG. The establishment clause prohibits the government from setting up an established religion. It also means that the government can not require religious observances, nor can it promote them. It does not say that the government can ban religious observances, no matter what some twisted "athiests" think.

Some people have a really hard time understanding plain English. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." seems pretty plain to me. Congress (and by extension, the States -via incorporation) can not start a "Church of the United States" nor compel membership. But on the other side of the coin, they can not prohibit citizens from exercising their religions.

The phrase "separation of church and state" comes from Thomas Jefferson who, incedentally, was not involved in the drafting of the Constitution.

Curiously, those same "athiests" who complain about the mythical "separation of church and state" whenever Christians want to pray in public spaces or display historical artifacts such as someone's Bible in them are strangely mute when it comes to schools having a "pretend you're a Muslim" day.
by bdickens
Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:22 pm
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"Separation of church and state" is a myth perpetrated by anti-Christians and has no basis in the Constitution or any other of our founding doccuments.
by bdickens
Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:37 pm
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The Annoyed Man wrote: Hugh Hewitt had an intriguing suggestion a couple of years ago. He pointed out that financial reporters are required by the SEC to reveal whether or not they are vested in any company about which they are reporting. Hewitt suggested that maybe political correspondents ought to be required by law to reveal their party affiliation whenever reporting on American politics. Then their reader/listeners would be able to judge more easily whether the reportage was unbiased.

I like it! "rlol"

Hear, hear! That is a spectacular idea!
by bdickens
Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:33 am
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BillT wrote:Thanks for your thoughts "The Annoyed Man". I can sympathize with your frustrations. I had many similar frustrations during the Bush years and wrote many emails and posted on many blogs with comments as long as yours. I had reservations about Bush since my wife and I had the occasion to meet him while he was governor and campaigning for president. When he learned my wife was from Brasil and tried to speak Spanish with her I began to question his qualifications to be a world leader. It just got worse as time went on. No Sept 11th connection to Sadam, no WMD's etc, and a war that killed thousands of Americans and many times that amount of civilians. I could go on and on but that is behind us now. I made the choice of Obama over McCain. He is not "my guy" , he is my President. George Bush was my President. Obama is your President too. You are a citizen of this country. Give our President a chance. He has not been in office a year and he inherited a Country that was at it's lowest point in modern times. It can't and won't be fixed overnight. But this is a great Country no matter what party is in office. Only through compromise can this Country rise up again to be the envy of the world. Divisiveness just slows or stops the progress that we so desperately need. The glass is half full, not half empty! But then again I am the eternal optimist, it's what gets me through the day!

I had reservations about Barry's qualifications to be a world leader when I found out he thought there were 57 states, when I found out he's never had a real job and NO executive experience, when I found out he was a "community organizer" (that's code for "leftist agitator"), when I found out he was unwilling to show one simple doccument to put to bed speculation he might not have been born a citizen, yet willing to spend a ton of money to avoid presenting that doccument, when I found out his associates include known terrorists, when I found out he appoints tax evaders to important cabinet positions, when I found out he usurps the Seante's Constitutional authority by appointing "czars" for everything and sidestepping crucial confirmation hearings, when I found out he wants to quash dissent through censorship and Chicago gangland intimidation tactics....

Shall I go on?

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