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- Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:39 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: I need a gun recommendation
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Re: I need a gun recommendation
If we are going to throw long guns into the mix, I would heartily recommend a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 in 9mm (Glock mags) as well. I bought one last month and promptly took it and my wife to the range. My wife had never fired a rifle before, although she isa decent pistol shot. I gave her about a two minute block of instruction on how to load and charge the Sub 2K and how the sights work. She took it away from me, loaded a mag, chambered a round, and promptly emptied a 17 round mag, offhand, into an 8 inch circle at 15 yards as fast as she could acquire a good sight picture, which was about 1 round every 2 seconds. She lowered the muzzle, grinned, and told me to hand her another mag. She promptly emptied another hundred rounds of mixed Tula, WWB, UMC JHP's, and Federal Hydrashoks into the same circle. When she was done, she turned to me, still grinning, and said, "this is my rifle, right?" She has since done the same thing at 30 yards, and I'm looking for another Sub2K for myself...
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:50 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: I need a gun recommendation
- Replies: 46
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Re: I need a gun recommendation
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#9 shot in no way qualifies as a self defense round. Neither #9 nor any otther bird shot will give the penetration needed to reach vital organs and ensure a threat is neutralized. Leave the bird shot to hunting birds, and stick to 00 buckshot for home defense. There is an extremely misguided thought process that leads people to think that bird shot will defend your home without penetrating your walls. Unfortunately, any round with enough penetration to effectively and immediately stop a threat is going to go through more than one interior wall.
#9 shot in no way qualifies as a self defense round. Neither #9 nor any otther bird shot will give the penetration needed to reach vital organs and ensure a threat is neutralized. Leave the bird shot to hunting birds, and stick to 00 buckshot for home defense. There is an extremely misguided thought process that leads people to think that bird shot will defend your home without penetrating your walls. Unfortunately, any round with enough penetration to effectively and immediately stop a threat is going to go through more than one interior wall.
- Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:43 am
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: I need a gun recommendation
- Replies: 46
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Re: I need a gun recommendation
PMR-30 was the very first thing I thought of.