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TexasCajun wrote:

dhoobler wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

jason812 wrote:I did my part to try to keep Obama from being elected, twice. Does that mean I blame every body that stayed home or voted 3rd party for him being elected, no. I blame the Republican party for giving us McCain and Romney. I don't blame the people that didn't want to vote for them for Obama's election. For all those that want to blame me if I don't vote for Trump, it's not a 100 percent no, for Hillary winning, do you blame those that didn't vote for McCain or Romney or do you blame the party that put them on the ballot?

The Republican Party didn't give us Trump, McCain or Romney. Registered Republican voters made that decision. People who didn't get the candidate want to blame the "establishment" and the "Party" but voters determine the candidate.

Yes, I blame anyone who sat out an election and didn't vote against Clinton and Obama and I'll do likewise with anyone who doesn't vote against Clinton II. I'll pull the lever for Trump, but I'll be voting for gun owners and the Second Amendment and against Clinton.

Chas.

I respectfully disagree with you that the voters gave us McCain or Romney. The voters chose from the options available. The republican establishment had control over who we got to choose from. The RNC also controlled the process by which the candidate was chosen, which can influence the outcome.

I think that the Trump phenomenon is backlash against the RNC. He would not have been successful but for his money and the seemingly unlimited coverage he got from the networks.

I think that one of the biggest problems with the selection of the republican candidate is that the blue states go first. I would like to change the sequence of republican primaries. Whichever state gave the biggest margin of victory in the general election to the republican candidate gets to go first.

Actually, each state gets to decide the method by which the delegates to the national convention are awarded. The states also get to decide when they hold their primary vote (assuming there's no pending court case challenging voting laws, district apportionment, etc). If what you are saying were true, the RNC's preferred Bush, Rubio, Kasich, etc would be the presumptive nominee instead of Trump. Just as has happened this year, the voters decided to run McCain and then Romney - they just happened to be the preferred RNC choices among the other RNC choices.

Redneck_Buddha wrote:

dhoobler wrote: Regarding the impeachment of the president, removal from office by the senate requires a two thirds vote. Unless there are 67 republican senators, no democrat president will ever be removed from office. We learned that lesson from Bill Clinton.

You've also got quite a few moderate RINOs who would never vote to convict.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

jason812 wrote:I did my part to try to keep Obama from being elected, twice. Does that mean I blame every body that stayed home or voted 3rd party for him being elected, no. I blame the Republican party for giving us McCain and Romney. I don't blame the people that didn't want to vote for them for Obama's election. For all those that want to blame me if I don't vote for Trump, it's not a 100 percent no, for Hillary winning, do you blame those that didn't vote for McCain or Romney or do you blame the party that put them on the ballot?

The Republican Party didn't give us Trump, McCain or Romney. Registered Republican voters made that decision. People who didn't get the candidate want to blame the "establishment" and the "Party" but voters determine the candidate.

Yes, I blame anyone who sat out an election and didn't vote against Clinton and Obama and I'll do likewise with anyone who doesn't vote against Clinton II. I'll pull the lever for Trump, but I'll be voting for gun owners and the Second Amendment and against Clinton.

Chas.

VoiceofReason wrote:Reading this thread reminds me of a self-flagellation ritual.

Folks it is not the end of the world and we are not going to give up our guns. To repeat part of my post on page 3, we have come too far and have the majority of public opinion on our side, "I don’t think Hillary, Michael Bloomberg or anyone else can do anything to institute “meaningful gun control” except get the U.S. public “up in arms”.

No matter who is elected president, if they go too far there are provisions in the constitution for impeachment.

Whoever is elected president, we must now look a little further than gun rights to what is good for the country. The country got this screwed up because good, hard working, law abiding people kept silent and let the loudest voices and those with the most money “drive the wagon”. We need to get more involved, but we also need to be well informed about what we are getting involved with.

The country will survive no matter who is elected president. I believe there are some rough times ahead but if we love our country we all need to work together to save it.

JALLEN wrote:

It was us who picked McCain, you will recall. Romney, too.

They would never have made it on American Idol, or Arsenio.

Liberty wrote:The thing is what has Trump ever done to support the 2nd amendment. or any of the issues of conservatives. .. I don't mean what has he said , because he has lied and changed his mind too many times to be believed.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

parabelum wrote:How about Trump/Cruz ticket?

I think that would be as good of a ticket as it gets. Probably won't happen, but you never know.

I'd rather see Cruz in a SCOTUS seat.

TEXXX wrote:As I sit here now trying to decide on whether or not to vote for Trump or not vote at all I wonder if it has sunk in to the Republican leadership that they are COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE for this mess were in or if they even care