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The Annoyed Man wrote:Interestingly, when you look at Texas' score, we score a 9 (http://www.bradycampaign.org/stategunlaws/scorecard/TX/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), meaning there are at least a few things we do that they agree with. That begs the question: If the Brady Bunch is the standard by which we judge gun grabbers, then shouldn't a perfect record on the RKBA earn you a 0; or, is it a case that even a broken clock is right once every 12 hours?

According to the Brady Campaign, we earned those 9 points for:
A) Restricting access to handguns for children under the ages of 16/17 - 5 out of 5 possible points;
B) Employers not forced to allow firearms on premises - 2 out of 2 possible points;
C) Colleges are not forced to allow firearms on campus - 2 out of 2 possible points.

What do you all think? Would a 0 have been better than a 9?

I'd be happy with the 5 points. Kids can learn to shoot using rifles but can't control handguns very well due to their motor skills still developing - at least to a certain age (12 or so, I would guess).

I guess this is where my social conditioning is getting to me. If we all have a 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms, I don't believe that right has an inherent age limit. However, my social conditioning is having me say "What do kids need access to handguns for? Kids don't need to carry guns!"

Police said several other people were in the restaurant, but the gunman clearly walked in seeking the four victims. They said the gunman had a long and violent criminal record, but did not give further details.

If only there were some law that made it illegal for convicted criminals to own or possess firearms. Failing that, it should be illegal in California to carry a firearm, unless you're a cop or have some other need to carry recognized by a local sheriff.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_californi ... t_shooting

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. – A man carrying two guns walked inside a Southern California fast food restaurant and shot four people who were eating lunch together, killing two — including an 8-year-old boy — before turning the gun on himself, police said Saturday.

The 56-year-old man arrived at the Del Taco restaurant in San Bernardino on a bike at about 1 p.m., walked over to a table and shot a man, a 29-year-old woman, a 5-year-old boy and the 8-year-old boy, San Bernardino police Lt. Jarrod Burguan said.

The man eating with the group was declared dead at the restaurant and the 8-year-old was declared dead at a hospital, San Bernardino Fire Department spokesman Steve Tracey said.

The woman, the 5-year-old boy and the gunman were hospitalized in critical condition, Tracey said. The names of the victims and the shooter weren't released and their relationships weren't immediately clear.

Owners of nearby businesses said horrified patrons streamed out of the restaurant after the shots were fired.

"I saw some people yelling and all of a sudden I heard 'boom, boom, boom, boom'," Jorge Garcia, who works at a recycling trailer in the same parking lot as the restaurant, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise. "I saw two employees run out of the employee door and then I saw 8 or 10 people run out of the restaurant and across the street."