TexasCajun wrote:Finally, we may have hit on something that is worthy of a more detailed discussion! If you are OCing and are asked to leave, would that verbal notice prevent you from being able to return with a concealed firearm?AJSully421 wrote: I just don't see the OC thing being too much of a problem. Best chances are that if you walk in to any grocery store or shop in town that either no one will notice, they will assume you are a cop or security (If you are dressed decently), or worst case, you will be approached by a manager and asked to leave because you are OCing. Go out to your car, toss on your concealment rig, and go right back in.
That is a good point of discussion that you have brought up. My stance would be that it would all depend on the words used in the verbal notice. If the manager said "We do not allow guns in here." I could see that covering both OC and CC. Now, if they said "We do not allow open carry of firearms", I would step out to the truck and grab my concealment holster and walk right back in.
Even if they said "no guns"... you could ask specifically, "So you are saying that you prohibit only the open carry of firearms?" they will not know the nuance of the law and reply "that's right", and that would give you the cover to go out and conceal. Then, should it go to court, it becomes a "Well, it is true that I said X but what I really meant was Y". After all, you would walk right back in without a pistol visible on your hip... how would they know that you did not leave it out in your vehicle? Only way that they would know is if you have to use it. The chances of that in most cases are insanely low. And if you have to use your pistol... then you have bigger problems than did a verbal notice satisfy the requirements of 30.07 and not 30.06.