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I agree that all guns should be treated as loaded unless it is not possible for them to fire... I was taught that there is such thing as an "open" gun... bolt locked back on an AR or bolt action, slide locked back on an auto pistol, cylinder open on a revolver , break action broke open on an over under... I will allow "open" guns to sweep things. I understand that a locked back bolt on a full magazine can be made loaded in a hundredth of a second... but to me, part of being "open" means no ammo in mags, tubes, clips... YMMV