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by mgood
Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9779

Re: Restaurant Robbers

Fangs wrote:Just out of curiosity, what would the legal problems be if in a situation like this where it was necessary to shoot back, you handed your BUG to a friend who you know can shoot but doesn't have a CHL?
He doesn't need a CHL to shoot, just to carry.
But yeah, different discussion. Probably should have it's own thread.
by mgood
Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:20 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9779

Re: Restaurant Robbers

Sounds good. And it may work out like that. But I wouldn't count on it.
Gang members shoot at members of rival gangs frequently.
One issue police have now is that it is the "homies" who have more experience under fire than the cops.
Also, most gang members know a fellow gang member who's been shot. Most of the don't die. And many are not afraid of being shot.
by mgood
Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9779

Re: Restaurant Robbers

C-dub wrote:Our best weapon is between our ears. Do what is needed to survive, no matter how much it hurts our ego.
I spent 30 minutes typing and you just summed it all up with one line. :lol::
I agree with this statement 100%.
by mgood
Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Restaurant Robbers
Replies: 91
Views: 9779

Re: Restaurant Robbers

I can't really say, "This is what I'd do." It's going to depend on the situation of course.
Multiple gun-wielding bad guys storm into the joint, good chance that you're stuck, right then. Play it cool and hope they make a mistake that gives you a chance to either run or fight. (And though we have a right to stand our ground, that doesn't mean it's always the best tactical move. If I can get out of that situation, it's certainly an option I'd consider.)
Suzanna Gratia said there were multiple times the guy in Luby's had his back to her and she would not have had to be an expert shot to end it right there. Ok, that's with one guy. Multiple bad guys and, maybe they end up in one general area with no innocents in my line of fire, not looking my way, some even have their back to me, hmm, maybe a good time to draw and start shooting. But six guys widely scattered through the place, lots of innocent people everywhere . . . may be best to keep the gun in the holster unless there is just no other way.

I agree with whoever said don't let them move you to another location. Period. Better to do your fighting out front, even with a good chance of innocent people being hurt, than to be in the back room with your hands and feet duct taped when the BGs decide they don't want to leave witnesses.

If they just want the money from the register, that's absolutely not worth risking someone getting shot over. If they're robbing customers, the risk-reward ratio goes up a little. If they're hurting people, that changes it more.

So there are times I would definitely fight and there are times I would just stay calm and try to be a good witness. But in between there are lots of gray areas that would just have to be evaluated on the scene.

I do believe these "what if" games are healthy though. It makes people think about what they would do in certain situations. Just having thought it through may be the difference that keeps someone alive.

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