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by mgood
Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:12 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license
Replies: 43
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Re: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license

anygunanywhere wrote:
mgood wrote:
I do agree that he should obey the law and display his CHL (from whatever state) when asked for ID.

But it is legal to carry in your vehicle now in Texas, with or without a CHL.
I don't believe there's anything that says you can't carry on your person in your vehicle without a CHL.
I never said it was illegal to carry on your person in your vehicle without a CHL.

If you are stopped in Texas, have a CHL and do not inform the LEO and you are discovered to be carrying and claim that you are not carrying under the authority of your CHL but under the "legal to carry in my vehicle" law, be sure to tell us how that works out for you.

This topic has been discussed many times here and the consensus opinion is that you must disclose. I certainly hope that no one new to CHL takes your advice and makes an error in judgement they will regret.

Anygunanywhere
I misunderstood you.
I thought you were saying that if he didn't tell them he had the Utah CHL, then he was admitting to a crime if he told them he had a handgun on him. All I was saying was that so long as no one knows he has the Utah card, he's still legally carrying in his vehicle, as far as the LEO knows.

My way of handling the situation of having the pistol on me when stopped without a CHL was for just that, someone without a CHL.

I did agree with you that he should show his Utah CHL. I'm not really sure why he wouldn't
by mgood
Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:10 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license
Replies: 43
Views: 5014

Re: My first LEO encounter after receiving my license

anygunanywhere wrote:If LEO asks you if you are armed, are you going to lie? If you have it on your person and he asks you to exit the vehicle then you must either admit that you have a Utah CHL or else deny you have a Utah CHL and you are carrying concealed illegally.
Not necessarily.

I do agree that he should obey the law and display his CHL (from whatever state) when asked for ID.

But it is legal to carry in your vehicle now in Texas, with or without a CHL.
I don't believe there's anything that says you can't carry on your person in your vehicle without a CHL.

I still haven't gotten around to sending in the paperwork to renew my Texas CHL. :frown5: Too broke to afford the fee at the moment. (And trying to get my Kimber Ultra CDP and Ruger Mini-14 off layaway :lol:: )
I live in Texas but work in New Mexico, where open carry is legal. I'm carrying openly on my belt just about every time I leave the house.
I'm legal in my house.
I'm legal between my house and my vehicle.
I'm legal in my vehicle.
And once I cross the state line, I'm legal just about everywhere.
I work in a gun store where open carry is not only legal, but sort of expected.
If I were to get stopped by a LEO in Texas on my way to or from work, and if for some reason he wanted me to exit my vehicle, I'd politely and calmly inform him that I'm carrying.
I'd keep my hands on the wheel and without making any movement say, "Sir . . . I have a pistol on my belt. . . ." And let him decide how to handle it. If he hesitated, I'd ask " . . . would you like me to leave it on the seat over there or would you prefer I got out with it?"
I'm legal in my truck, but I can't get out with the gun. I suppose that if he doesn't want me handling it right then, which he probably doesn't, and asks me to step out anyway, no one is going to convict me for being outside the vehicle with a handgun when the officer told me to do just that. I'd be happy to step out and let him remove it from my holster if he so chooses.
I also live in a small town, surrounded by a bunch of other small towns, where no one (law enforcement included) gets too terribly excited about someone carrying a gun; rural area, lots of hunters, etc.

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