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by Charles L. Cotton
Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:16 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: state fair carry?
Replies: 67
Views: 12185

BrassMonkey wrote:Thanks.

Now, is it lawful for them to refuse entry on the basis that I refuse to allow them to document information they have no authority to document in the first place?

Being a city park, with city employees, and city cops, don't they have to allow anyone entry unless there is specific legal grounds to refuse service/entry?

I want to draw a race parallel here, but the words are not coming to me just yet.
There is no authority to bar a CHL from government property, unless you allow them to document your CHL information. However, there is no practical way for you to keep them from documenting it. It would be reasonable for a LEO to "run" your CHL, or even call DPS if the CHL Division employees are in the office, to confirm that your CHL is valid. To do this, you can be required to give them your CHL. If you refuse to give them the CHL , then I believe you could be denied access, because you would have denied them the ability to validate your CHL. Remember, it's our status as CHL's that is controlling, not our possession of a plastic card. I realize this is a hyper-technical point, but it is one that law enforcement can legitimately use to get the information.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:32 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: state fair carry?
Replies: 67
Views: 12185

BrassMonkey wrote:Nobody can find any statutes in this matter?
BrassMonkey wrote:OK,
So what gives them the "right" to document this information outside an official police department document such as an incident report?
llwatson wrote:Security at the State Fair would be Dallas PD. At least, that was my experience.
There is no specific authority granted, nor is there a statute prohibiting the collection of this data. Most of us don't like this procedure; it's unnecessary and to some it's a bit insulting, however, it's not unlawful.

Chas.

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