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safety1 wrote:

safety1 wrote:

mikeloc wrote:I'm not okay with it. This is not a police state.

Charles, I TOTALLY MISS READ THE OP, I thought it stated "I'm OK with it"
My apologies sir!

Thanks, I deleted my post.

Chas.

safety1 wrote:

mikeloc wrote:I'm not okay with it. This is not a police state.

Then tell Stickland and OCT thanks for publicly claiming the Dutton/Rinaldi Amendment essentially created unlicensed open-carry.

Stripping that amendment will have no impact on policing. Either the 5th Circuit will adopt the Black decision or it will not. That's what will make the determination. Even then, it's very easy to add one more fact to the scenario to get beyond the prohibition on detaining someone solely because they are openly carrying a handgun.

[venting]Folks, there was a strong push for some legal of retention holster and that was avoided. The was a far less likely push for some type of visible CHL identification, and that too was avoided. I would have hoped that, by now, the all-or-nothing approach would have been recognized for what it is -- a pipe dream. I will renew my question from two years ago, "was the push for open-carry really worth it?" My answer is a resounding NO! It was far too expensive. It will have been a symbolic victory with very little practical application for all but the tiny percentage of gun owners. The battle cost us other bills that impact countless Texans, including some that were not even filed.[/venting]

Chas.

Syntyr wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
I'm not saying anything because what is accurate now may be inaccurate in 5 minutes. This is hands down the worst, least productive legislative session I've seen in 35 years. Childish ranting, backstabbing, outright lying, you name it, it's going on. If the only thing that passes is open-carry, then this session will be an absolute disaster and even that is far from certain.

Chas.

Chas, after the dust has settled would you give us the scoop on who was throwing wrenches into this session so that we can adjust our votes accordingly? Although at this point I am almost afraid it would have to vote for none of the above...

Thanks

I'll be painfully candid. I am so mad now that I want to tell every single thing I know regardless who it hurts. When I cool down I'm certain I'll think better of that approach and be more of a statesman. I will not hesitate to point out the two guys most responsible, but that will hardly be a revelation.

Chas.

safety1 wrote:

safety1 wrote:

Jason73 wrote:Perhaps this is a glimmer of hope in this whole debacle...

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texa ... 261285.php

AUSTIN — House and Senate negotiators are 'getting close' to a compromise plan on tax cuts that would drop a proposed sales tax cut, clearing the way to resolve the biggest stalemate in the legislative session, according to several lawmakers close to the talks.

By early Wednesday afternoon, negotiators reportedly were close to agreement on tweaks to property-tax cuts and changes to proposed business-franchise tax cuts that possibly would satisfy both legislative chambers.

The potential deal: Increase the standard property tax homestead exemption by $10,000 and cut the business-franchise tax by 25 percent.

That gives the House the business-tax cut it wanted, and gives the Senate a property-tax cut it wanted. Details still were being worked out.

A House proposal for sales-tax cuts is off the table, according to senators who said they had been briefed on the discussions.

As part of the deal, the Senate and House then would move forward to pass bills on expanded border-security funding, removing the Public Integrity Unit ethics watchdog unit from Travis County to the Texas Rangers and open-carry legislation.

Thanks for the post Jason73

Charles, any of this founded?
Thanks in advance!

I'm not saying anything because what is accurate now may be inaccurate in 5 minutes. This is hands down the worst, least productive legislative session I've seen in 35 years. Childish ranting, backstabbing, outright lying, you name it, it's going on. If the only thing that passes is open-carry, then this session will be an absolute disaster and even that is far from certain.

Chas.

XinTX wrote:

Srnewby wrote:A few days ago, Charles commented that things were in the works and that licensed OC is very much alive and well and that maybe even HB 308 was not dead and to keep our eyes "on the horizon". I know patience is difficult, but I really think it is the best course of action at this point in time. Issuing our own calls to action may not be the most prudent thing to do right now.

I do think many of us are getting a bit impatient. As many have said, with the GOP majority this SHOULD have sailed through. But yet we see it bogged down in the mud for some unknown reason. And no progress on HB308 that we've heard is troubling as well. Heck, the events of Garland should be ample evidence that HB308 is a good idea. Had one or both of the bad guys there made it inside, it could have been a disaster (I've read that activity center is owned by the Garland ISD and is 30.06 posted. I haven't been there and stand to be corrected).

I understand that some people are getting impatient; heck, I'm getting impatient. But the idea shared by a few people that a majority of Republicans means we automatically get anything and everything we want, when we want it ignores reality and the political process. Don't fall for the lies of NARG, OCT, OCTC, Texas Gun Rights, Texas Carry or any of the other people and organizations whose track records are marked only by failures and strong rhetoric.

Gun bills are a very small percentage of the thousands of bills that are filed and people who are very good friends to gun owners have many other issues and bills to work. Literally, every time we ask someone to push one of our bills, by necessity we are asking them to put aside other bills.

This session, we have other issues that are blocking all legislation, not just ours. Don't ask me to explain because I cannot and will not as it would damage our bills.

Chas.