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by Charles L. Cotton
Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:18 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 695
Replies: 26
Views: 4874

Re: HB 695

Liberty wrote:It looks to me as though if this bill is passed facitys such as UTMB would be good to carry in.
UTMB, UT Health Science Center at Houston, and M.D. Anderson Cancer Center would be different from most hospitals because they are owned by the University of Texas, arguably making them a university. This would apply to other hospitals that are owned by a public or private university.

So-called "teaching hospitals" are not "schools." Almost every hospital is a "teaching hospital" because they have residents, fellows, and full time or adjunct attending physicians teaching those people.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:12 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 695
Replies: 26
Views: 4874

Re: HB 695

C-dub wrote:I thought, in theory, at least that state, county, and city hospitals that post 30.06 signs were already unenforceable. They still post them anyway and often claim it is because they are also educational institutions. Some are both. Will a situation like this be covered by this bill?
This is an area where government hospitals can enforce 30.06 signs, because hospitals are statutorily off-limits per Tex. Penal Code §46.035(b)(4), if a 30.06 sign is posted. Tex. Penal Code §30.06(e) makes 30.06 signs unenforceable, unless they are posted on property that is already off-limits per §46.03 or §46.035. Therefore, 30.06 signs on all hospitals are enforceable, whether private or government owned.

Chas.
Tex. Penal Code §30.06(e) wrote:(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Tex. Penal Code §46.035 wrote:Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
  • (b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:
    • (4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing homee licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home administration, as appropriate;
by Charles L. Cotton
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:29 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 695
Replies: 26
Views: 4874

Re: HB 695

SewTexas wrote:
mr1337 wrote:
SewTexas wrote:but.....
most hospitals aren't run by the "public" they are "Central Methodist" or "Waco Seton" or "Northwest Baptist" (examples only, not real names, I don't think)
As for retirement and nursing homes, those are also privately owned, not public. So I'm not really sure that this is going to affect much. I really don't like the idea of spending time and effort on a bill that will impact a very few businesses.
The bill says private hospitals are prohibited from posting 30.06 signs unless they have security guards at each entrance.

Public hospitals are prohibited from posting 30.06 at all.

gotcha, too many negatives. thank you.

in that case, the hospitals will just add $50 a day to everyone's bills as a "security fee" add a couple more security guards and rake in extra $
the retirement homes are already making a fortune, and they'll do the same thing as the hospitals.

and the security lobby will be thrilled!
Not two security guards, one for every single door. That will be cost prohibitive and most hospitals will not post 30.06 signs.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:37 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 695
Replies: 26
Views: 4874

Re: HB 695

MeMelYup wrote:Clarification please. HB 695, pg 2, (e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the licenseholder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity, including a public hospital or nursing home, and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.

Does this mean state or county hospitals and nursing homes or does it include private hospitals (ie. Seaton, Scott and White, Hillcrest, etc.) and nursing homes?

I know and everyone else should that this will not include VA as it is Federal.
It means state, county and city hospitals and nursing homes could not be made off limits by using a 30.06 sign.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:47 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 695
Replies: 26
Views: 4874

Re: HB 695

This Bill by Springer (R, A+) does two things. First, hospitals and nursing homes will no longer be statutory off-limits. TPC §30.06 cannot be used to render public hospitals or nursing homes off-limits and private facilities must station an armed guard in uniform at every entrance in order to use §30.06 to bar armed CHLs.

If Springer's HB308 passes, then the first part of the HB695 becomes moot. However, requiring armed guards at private facilities would still be very useful.

Rep. Springer is clearly a strong supporter of Texas gun owners.
Chas.

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