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Cedar Park Dad wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

RustES wrote:

That just plain outright sucks.....cant even open a gun range in Texas....what the heck is this place comming too

That depends on the circumstances though doesn't it. I wouldn't want a public gun range opening right next to me and would fight it too. The noise, especially if they're talking rifles, would be intolerable. If I move next to one, thats on me. But if one comes in next to me thats on them.

Not really. Cities cannot regulate "sport shooting ranges," other than setting business hours. Even then, the hours must be the most liberal enjoyed by any business within the city limits, exclusive of establishments with a license to sell or serve alcohol on premises. So if there is one all-night pharmacy or gas station, then the range gets to operate 24 hours a day. Counties cannot even regulate business hours. So you can fight all you want, but you'll lose.

Chas.

They seem to be winning in Buda.

They got a temporary injunction only; Plaintiffs will lose the suit.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:EDIT: If it were an indoor range I wouldn't care one way or the other, or f its in an area away from residences, or if the residences build up aroudn it. But the carte blanche view that you would never have a problem is naive.

I don't know what you mean by "never have a problem is naive" but you really should read the law before claiming you'd have grounds to "fight."

Cedar Park Dad wrote:If a new outdoor range opens up right next to a residential neighborhood and permeates the neighborhood with the joyful noise of gunfire (starting to remind me of pleasant evenings in Pomona, Ca. ah the sweet sound of gunfire, sirens, and thundering helicopters) then you may change your mind.

First, it isn't next to a neighborhood; have a look at Google Earth. Secondly, it's not a matter of changing my mind; you'd have to change the law that was passed in 2011 and that isn't going to happen.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:You have the right to enjoy your property. You do not have the right to harm me or the enjoyment of my property.

No one is being harmed and since SB766 prohibits all suits against "sport shooting ranges" based on nuisance claims, then your enjoyment argument fails, as a matter of law.

I'm not sure why you want to make it sound like the range was put in a neighborhood, because it certainly wasn't. Also, the property has been used for recreational shooting for many years; it's not something that just opened.

Chas.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

RustES wrote:

That just plain outright sucks.....cant even open a gun range in Texas....what the heck is this place comming too

That depends on the circumstances though doesn't it. I wouldn't want a public gun range opening right next to me and would fight it too. The noise, especially if they're talking rifles, would be intolerable. If I move next to one, thats on me. But if one comes in next to me thats on them.

Not really. Cities cannot regulate "sport shooting ranges," other than setting business hours. Even then, the hours must be the most liberal enjoyed by any business within the city limits, exclusive of establishments with a license to sell or serve alcohol on premises. So if there is one all-night pharmacy or gas station, then the range gets to operate 24 hours a day. Counties cannot even regulate business hours. So you can fight all you want, but you'll lose.

Chas.

I can't talk about an ongoing case other than to say I'm representing the range.

Chas.