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by Charles L. Cotton
Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact
Replies: 24
Views: 6061

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

This "leak" is far more significant than many people realize. It's also evidence that Obama's lack of experience is going to be a problem for him and for the country. I sometimes (a/k/a often) find protocol to be cumbersome and inefficient, but when it comes to trust, that has nothing to do with protocol. Once you forfeit trust, your credibility is lost and you'll pay the price in terms of future working relationships.

I wish I could say I'm surprised at Obama's actions, but sadly it's in keeping with one who believes his own press releases.

Chas.
The Annoyed Man wrote:Obama has already been trying to exert his oval office influence before he's even in the office.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbol.htm
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BUSH ANGER: OBAMA AIDES LEAK CHAT DETAILS
Tue Nov 11 2008 09:28:10 ET

Just hours after President Bush and President-elect Obama met in the Oval Office of the White House, details of their confidential conversation began leaking out to the press, igniting anger from the president, sources claim.

"Senator Obama would be wise to keep close counsel," a top Bush source warned.

"BUSH AND OBAMA AT ODDS OVER AID FOR AUTO INDUSTRY," splashed the NEW YORK TIMES in an exclusive Monday evening, quoting "people familiar with the discussion."

The two met at the White House in private, without staff.

"Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia," claimed the TIMES.

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The ASSOCIATED PRESS quickly followed with details of the conversation, citing "aides who described the discussion on grounds of anonymity, citing the private nature of the meeting."

Bush advisers view the leaks as an effort to undermine the president's remaining days in office.

"Senator Obama may not be familiar with a long-standing tradition of presidents holding their private conversations, private," a senior adviser explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.

Developing...
If there were no aides present during the conversation, then the only way aides could have leaked the substance of the private conversation is if Obama briefed them on it. And these scumbags, under cover of "anonymity," then leak the substance to the press - the NYT in particular.

Obama has not one tiny shred of integrity, and his aides are lower than snake bellies in a wagon rut.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:04 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact
Replies: 24
Views: 6061

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

tbranch wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Because he didn't issue one dealing with guns and the concern expressed by many here is that Obama will target guns or ammo.
Chas,

Do you think there's a chance he will issue and EO that wil impact 2A rights?

Tom
This is hardly my area of expertise, but I don't know how he could. The only thing George H.W. Bush could do about "assault weapons" via an EO was ban the importation of foreign made rifles; he couldn't touch American made guns. He can't raise the excise tax by EO, so I don't know how he would hurt us without legislation. Plus, he would put his "blue dog" Democrats in a horrible position and perhaps undermine his own administration.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:21 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact
Replies: 24
Views: 6061

Re: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

tallmike wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:The only EOs that maobama will eliminate are the ones he does not agree with. Next he will issue his own. All government intrusion into our lives is wrong.

If an EO goes beyond mandating casual Friday it should be null and void because it probably is unconstitutional.

Anygunanywhere
If all government intrusion is wrong then why havent we heard people screaming about the 279 EOs that Bush has issued?
Because he didn't issue one dealing with guns and the concern expressed by many here is that Obama will target guns or ammo. All Presidents issue executive orders; I think it's Obama's announcement of when and why he's going to do it that raises concerns.

Here is a list of the Executive Orders signed by Geo. W. Bush.

Chas.

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